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Predictions and Projections

We are on the verge of a very big year. Although it may seem trivial to discuss djing when there are so many important things happening in the world sometimes its nice to have a fun place to escape. So what should you expect in 2009 for the world of djing- will it survive the economic meltdown? Here are my guesses at what might come down the pipeline for the coming year:

1) Fewer controllers will be released

2008 was a big year for the controller with many companies rushing to enter a relatively untouched market. With the global market slowing down there is a good chance that companies are going to play it safe and not take chances on new models. Thats fine by us, spend more time developing groundbreaking concepts and we will gladly wait longer for them to come out.

2) The year of the sample

With serato and ableton teaming up its going to be very popular for turntable djs to create music “from scratch” using songs and a multi track sequencer (think kid beyond with turntables) Not to be let down – we have a few things up our sleeves so expect some big TSI files with this in mind over the next few months.

3) Niche goes Big

Small internet outfits that make boutique controllers will come up big in the next year- if they can manage to stay in business. More and more people are going to forgo the guitar centers of the world and save their money for special purchases from smaller companies- especially those with local roots.

4) Controllerism gains momentum worldwide

You will start to see events and battles featuring controllerism in the coming year for the first time. We may even see some of the turntablists start to adopt new tools and form hybrid sets.

5) 1+1+1+1 = not enough usb ports

instead of an all in one midi controller djs will start to piece together their own rig combos from the increased number of “accessory” controllers that will flood the market. VCI-100 copycats will slow down and the new question on everyone’s mind will be: “what USB hub does not cause latency!?”

6) Hands on Music

Producers will get the clue that djs want to do more with their music and start releasing parts that can be manipulated. Stems for ableton live or even juggle friendly copies and edits for traktor.

7) Video will blow up

As soon as Serato video gets sorted out and everyone figures out how to get every music video ever made then the video assault will begin on mainstream clubs across america. Full immersion video installations give everyone the feeling that they are actually partying with biggie and puffie.  The struggle will be to keep audiences dancing and not staring at the screen.

8) The underground will re-surface

Its seems that during long recessions people always like to take drugs, dance all night and forget about their troubles. Fortunately for us djs that like these sort of bacchanal events, there will be plenty to play at!

I could go on for a while but that would just get boring when I am anxious to hear your predictions for 2009. Perhaps you have some requests or ideas for things you would like to see happen? Dont be shy, you never know who might be reading this! Make sure to check back with us on wed as I will be posting a special article on NYE tips and tricks including several handy tools that will take care of the count down brilliantly.

  • Im not sure, you are talking about future, about past or about PRESENT.

    ffff

    Sometimes I get shocked!

    What about TOUCHSCREENs Ean, you missed it?

    Come back! It was more exciting…

    fight mode: off

    I think DIY and Open source is the future. System Integration.

    And please forget CONTROLLERISM. People are FREE CREATIVE HUMANS using Tools (Tooltablism is limited too)

    I use turntables… well I'm turntablist! NOOOO

    I use Controllers too… well you are performing new ways to turntablism! NOOO

    I'm a human expresing myself trought TOOLS and Obviously I'm not a Tooltablist (I do Tooltablism, isn't the same but…)

    Tooltablist or not Tooltablist, that's the question…

    PD: Video is a TOOL too, don't start again Videoturntablism, videocontrollerism…

    is so boring…

  • mr jinx

    hopefully australia will abandon its obsession with top 40, electro and repetitive vocal house – being a dj in love with techno is no fun in a country hooked on big drippy cheese fests every night of the week sigh

  • LegoKong

    A traditional dj can only play what he has in his record crate, "Us" on the other hand are only limited to how much music we have on our hard drives. 20Gb = 2500 song vs 2 crates = 100 vinyls.[/quote]

    True… one other consideration as well, those 2 crates to not equate to a variety of music like most people have in one playlist. One more reason that digital is more versatile.

  • DJ Juan

    [quote comment="15864"][quote comment="15763"]I predict club owners will still ask me if I can mix "like real djs" by using vinyl or CDJs.[/quote]

    [quote comment=""]Happy new year first of all..

    My prediction is that A&H still isn't gonna work out the soundcard problems of the 4d and i still cant buy one (or buy one and use external soundcard, but this is not the way to go) and so will come with a new xone 5d[/quote]

    j[/quote]

    [quote comment=""][quote comment="15763"]I predict club owners will still ask me if I can mix "like real djs" by using vinyl or CDJs.[/quote]

    [quote comment=""]Happy new year first of all..

    My prediction is that A&H still isn't gonna work out the soundcard problems of the 4d and i still cant buy one (or buy one and use external soundcard, but this is not the way to go) and so will come with a new xone 5d[/quote]

    j[/quote]

    i hope that panasonic comes out with a Hybrid Turntable that is completely midi, digital and analog. they should also team up with traktor pro…

  • j

    [quote comment="15763"]I predict club owners will still ask me if I can mix "like real djs" by using vinyl or CDJs.[/quote]

    [quote comment=""]Happy new year first of all..

    My prediction is that A&H still isn't gonna work out the soundcard problems of the 4d and i still cant buy one (or buy one and use external soundcard, but this is not the way to go) and so will come with a new xone 5d[/quote]

    j

  • b

    Happy new year first of all..

    My prediction is that A&H still isn't gonna work out the soundcard problems of the 4d and i still cant buy one (or buy one and use external soundcard, but this is not the way to go) and so will come with a new xone 5d

  • mexicandj

    [quote comment=""]Ean,

    I think some of your predictions are spot-on, but I'm gonna disagree with a few points:

    -VJing will not get huge:

    I've seen some interesting VJs, but nothing that has ever made me want to pick up a set of controls and do it myself. Visuals are interesting, but I see them as gimmicks. Lighting is important, but most people don't go clubbing for particular light shows. Equally so, I think, with VJing. People will get sick of seeing terrible music videos at their once-favorite club, and go somewhere less Top-40.

    -Controllerism will develop an active subculture, but not get mainstream.

    When I started DJing with Ableton Live, my beginning sets mashed my songs to hell and it was exciting to do. I would guess that some of it was even interesting to listen to. However, listening to it at home and dancing to it at a club are very different things. The problem with controllerism is that, much like real DJing tricks, it is not usually danceable. Most people like to hear the songs they love, not the songs they love glitched and mixed with 20 other things. After a while, you're sick of being teased and just want to hear the song you love. I don't want to start a "what's real DJing" argument, but my point is that controllerism, much like battle DJing, has it's place. That place, usually, is not on the dancefloor.

    Done right, it can do great things to a dancefloor (especially with electronic music where many people don't know the song anyway), but it usually requires restraint and experience. A to B DJing, on the other hand, is pretty hard to screw up if the songs are great. It takes an expert to really morph sounds to great a mood.[/quote]

    Id like to disagree to your post, simply because it seems like your talking vj as if the only thing used is top 40 videos, while this may be the case, I think Ean is referring to , say more artistic performances, that are actually interesting to watch enjoy and still dance to, something you would see in a DJ performance , that can be implemented in clubs, because in a club you not only get the people at the dancefloor you still get the crowd that just goes to chill sit and drink, and to njoy the music, havin that visual its refreshing and even more when its mindblowing, just look at this



    i think they are doin a great job when it comes to vj, of course this is a performance,but if done in clubs the right way,man that would be awesome

    Also when it comes to controllerism, again I think Ean refers to the fact that now you can just show up to your gig with your laptop HDD and controller, just that simple, mind you under that there will be the one that scratches and all , but the main thing is about using a controller

    This is of course what I got from what Ean is saying (correct me if wrong Ean), but also what I think of it

  • Ean,

    I think some of your predictions are spot-on, but I'm gonna disagree with a few points:

    -VJing will not get huge:

    I've seen some interesting VJs, but nothing that has ever made me want to pick up a set of controls and do it myself. Visuals are interesting, but I see them as gimmicks. Lighting is important, but most people don't go clubbing for particular light shows. Equally so, I think, with VJing. People will get sick of seeing terrible music videos at their once-favorite club, and go somewhere less Top-40.

    -Controllerism will develop an active subculture, but not get mainstream.

    When I started DJing with Ableton Live, my beginning sets mashed my songs to hell and it was exciting to do. I would guess that some of it was even interesting to listen to. However, listening to it at home and dancing to it at a club are very different things. The problem with controllerism is that, much like real DJing tricks, it is not usually danceable. Most people like to hear the songs they love, not the songs they love glitched and mixed with 20 other things. After a while, you're sick of being teased and just want to hear the song you love. I don't want to start a "what's real DJing" argument, but my point is that controllerism, much like battle DJing, has it's place. That place, usually, is not on the dancefloor.

    Done right, it can do great things to a dancefloor (especially with electronic music where many people don't know the song anyway), but it usually requires restraint and experience. A to B DJing, on the other hand, is pretty hard to screw up if the songs are great. It takes an expert to really morph sounds to great a mood.

    Touch-screen DJing will not be as popular as everyone suspects. It just doesn't feel tactile enough. It looks damn cool, but apparently it's obnoxious to work with – I've heard this from a few people with Lemur experience. It's a shame, but if you can't feel most of what you're manipulating it's just not the same.

    I believe, much like was said earlier in the comments, that the bar scene will grow.

    I'm going to express my confidence that, unlike the other commenters have stated, people who get gigs will be connected, not talented. This has always been the case, and there's no reason to suspect it will change. Upsetting, certainly, and I understand the people worrying about losing their gigs. However, most people without any talent won't have the drive to keep going and they will fade out in due time. It will all work out, despite the non-meritocracy.

    Oh, and someone already made a lego-like controller: http://www.mawzer.com/index.php

  • mexicandj

    [quote comment="15802"][quote comment=""]i think we may be getting closer to the perfect controller, unless the ns7 IS the perfect controller

    this is my opinion, so your may vary :P[/quote]

    Yeah the NS7 is nice, but its only for Serato Itch, and that misses the effects that for instance Traktor has. Take the VCI-300, connect it to Traktor, it just misses the buttons and extra knobs.

    The Stanton is a good start, but again, not really an all in one, and have you looked at the price? I'll take the Xone4D then, but I was more hoping for something in the Vestax price range ;o)

    So basically like Ean already mentioned, the controllers are there or close to be there. If Serato would bring Itch closer to Traktor or their controllers would be made Traktor ready I think we have a winner, lets see if 2009 can bring that nicely priced…[/quote]

    oh for sure stantons is pricey yes, not my choice in controller, but i mean theres other people out there that might find it attractive , i was just giving examples, as for the ns7, im sure theyll make the update to support the other dvs, while its not perfect, i bet theres some people that might have it to work for what they need, it really all depends on what you need, and with this i think its safe to safe that theres no pleasing everyone.

    But here is to the perfect controller hopefully sooner rather than later

    happy new year to everyone! 🙂

  • Anthony More

    Well Ean,

    You made your points…

    I think you're not far away from the truth…

    HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

    (To everyone here on DJTT!)

  • [quote comment=""]i think we may be getting closer to the perfect controller, unless the ns7 IS the perfect controller

    this is my opinion, so your may vary :P[/quote]

    Yeah the NS7 is nice, but its only for Serato Itch, and that misses the effects that for instance Traktor has. Take the VCI-300, connect it to Traktor, it just misses the buttons and extra knobs.

    The Stanton is a good start, but again, not really an all in one, and have you looked at the price? I'll take the Xone4D then, but I was more hoping for something in the Vestax price range ;o)

    So basically like Ean already mentioned, the controllers are there or close to be there. If Serato would bring Itch closer to Traktor or their controllers would be made Traktor ready I think we have a winner, lets see if 2009 can bring that nicely priced…

  • mexicandj

    [quote comment="15799"]I predict that someone will build this controller in 2009 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3222/3150624267_f0

    Okay well would be cool if they even considered it (but someone once told me that if you don't out your dreams, no-one can respond on em ;o), stuffing all goodies in a single package, the size of a VCI-300 with kick ass jogs, high quality built-in soundcard with master and booth outputs, enough buttons to control most options in Traktor and layered to handle 4 decks.[/quote]

    Numark's Ns7 seems similar to that (the buttons dont seem to be as together as your image though), and stantons scs 1d seems to be able to handle the ability of 4 decks

    i think we may be getting closer to the perfect controller, unless the ns7 IS the perfect controller

    this is my opinion, so your may vary 😛

  • Ow just wish a happy New Year and sit your butt down. We'll see what will become of who and what. Many of you are just repeating what has been seen so far trough history. You are forgetting one important thing: THE FUTURE IS NOW!

  • I predict that someone will build this controller in 2009 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3222/3150624267_f0

    Okay well would be cool if they even considered it (but someone once told me that if you don't out your dreams, no-one can respond on em ;o), stuffing all goodies in a single package, the size of a VCI-300 with kick ass jogs, high quality built-in soundcard with master and booth outputs, enough buttons to control most options in Traktor and layered to handle 4 decks.

  • <<<I>>>

    WOW! thats exactly the midi controller I've been looking for. Can't wait! Build it already!

  • i'm looking quite forward to what ableton and serato will do together. i have a feeling that serato may have the capacity to bury traktor if they really wanted to invest some serious energy into the controllerism side of things.

    currently the itch/300 system is a fair contender, but it seems severely undercooked when compared to how far along traktor is in accomodating truly progressive mixing.

  • 1.) I predict survival of the fittest… Not only on hardware but also on software front.

    2.) Fewer controllers will be designed and released. (Everyone wants to mix like Richie!)

    3.) Also some people will go to ridiculous forms of finding some new way of mixing. Some will go to ridiculous extends, that they will lose all focus of what DJ-ing is all about.

    Hence they will make ultratechnical sets which are hard to listen to by the mainstream crowd, but will be praised by the techwizards.

    Ultimately this will lead to a restructuring of the Digital DJ genre.

    (Might sound dark and sinister, but this happens more than you can imagine, and is generally never a bad thing.)

  • NI will create an arrangement view on Traktor Pro and bring back the native mix record feature.

  • DJ Phaidon

    [quote comment="15783"]What I would love to set is lego style controller: you have an empty surface where you can place any kind of controller wherever you like. You would buy arcade buttons, jog wheels, push encoders, touch sensitive faders, … and make your very own controller easily. That would be awesome.

    I would be happy with grids and key only, I prefer defining the cue points myself.[/quote]

    Agree completely with both.

    I believe that in 2009, you will see certain scenes re-emerging, similar to the rave scene in LA and London in the mid nineties. People want a release from the everyday grind of trying to get by. I have a feeling that a lot of people in the DJTT community will be those that bring that release. The ones that know their stuff will get big and stay big, similar to those that did back then, and it won't be based on your track collection as much as how you can manipulate it and change it into something that moves a crowd. I'm looking forward to 2009!

  • Empolo

    While I feel that Digital DJ'ing will continue to take off and FLY, I also predict that we will not (unfortunately) be any closer to an industry 'standard' as Ean discussed in another article.

    Survival of the fittest for 2009.

  • I think that 2009 will be just another year which brings us closer to digital age, more star DJs will start using digital dj equipment (as Ritchie Hawtin did) and those guys who thought that the only "real" DJ is the one with heavy bag full of vinyls – will be part of history. More people will respect digital DJs for what they do.

    This is my wish, this is my prediction 🙂

  • Great article and follow-up comments.

    Any word on when the contest judging will be done?

  • djbios

    What I would love to set is lego style controller: you have an empty surface where you can place any kind of controller wherever you like. You would buy arcade buttons, jog wheels, push encoders, touch sensitive faders, … and make your very own controller easily. That would be awesome.

    I think that the way people djs will change drastically. Djing will not be about mixing one track after the other, but rather combine chunks of tracks together. Beatgrids, hot cue points, and auto looping allow a completely new kind of djing that excites me a lot. This requires a lot more preparation, but on the other hand you can do things that are much more creative.

    Someone mentioned the extra info (as cue points, grids, …) built in purchased MP3s. I would be happy with grids and key only, I prefer defining the cue points myself.

  • Combo Breaker

    I think small community like this will explode as more and more people discover digital djaying; more and more minds will bring more and more new techniques and tricks that people will incorporate into their sets. I think in 2009, the digital dj scene should try to avoid the pitfalls of most of the 'classical' dj community, aka an incredibly feeling of elitism that scares newcomers.

    With the growth of digital dj scene, there will be a huge flood of newcomers, people who will want to learn how to do it; and like I said, the community should embrace them and we should all make an effort to spread the knowledge.

    Some people think that this is a bad idea since it will delute the 'science', but i think the more people, the merrier. Some DJ think this will steal their jobs and all that, but i think that good deejays will prevails, bad people will never get any type of real job.

    I think Vestax, with the VCI-100, has created a classic piece of equipement that will be last a long, long time, thanks to the open configuration formats used in Traktor and all.

    We are perhaps at the dawn of a new generation of music making here. Let's not ruin it in 2009!

  • [quote comment="15766"]For '09 Clubs will lose there fire & dive bars will be the new happening spots. Here in L.A. Dive bars is what is in, with no covers, cheap stiff drinks, and dj's replacing the jukeboxes. I have already seen this trend starting to grow like a wild fire.

    [/quote]

    great suggestion- i was just thinking about this yesterday and forgot to include it. I completely agree, bars and clubs and going to need to re-vamp their offerings in a big way. Some people are predicting that "over=spending" is going to be very un-cool so I would expect to see bottle service lose serious ground (thank god!)

  • paddydj

    I predict Vestax will build this one http://foren.musik-meyer.net/vestax/index.php?t=m

    🙂

  • 9) I predict that those predictions will be correct :p Your on the ball Ean 🙂

    10) I also think we are going to see slow of record labels go under !

    11) Oh and DJTT's quisine will reign supreem !

    12) I also predict that the power/flexibility of touch sensitive faders will reveal itself and become a more popular method of interacting with music than it currently is – i can see more touchfaders being used in devices in the future.

    13) Another prediction is that Moldover is going to upping the game once again this year.

    14) Bomes Midi Translator will going to explode and start selling like hotcakes – as it rightfully should.

    15) Manufacters will start making "less inteligent" hardware, no inbuilt preset changes – this is welcomed by me!

    16) I Predict Bento has lots up his sleeve for this year too, especially when it comes to live looping on the fly. Think kid beyond with turntables… on steroids.

    17) Stanton will start rocking our digital worlds with the help of Bomes Midi Pro – more manufactures orta jump on the ban wagon.

    18) More beatboxers will start to join in the digital revolution and start using digital dj style techniques – kid beyond will have to step up his game or fall behind.

    18) Digital acts will start becomming more popular.

    19) Some of my prayers from 2008 will be anwered – all good things come to those who wait.

    20) The DJTT community will keep pushing it to the next level.

  • Foreverhex

    [quote comment="15766"]For '09 Clubs will lose there fire & dive bars will be the new happening spots. Here in L.A. Dive bars is what is in, with no covers, cheap stiff drinks, and dj's replacing the jukeboxes. I have already seen this trend starting to grow like a wild fire.

    [/quote]

    This is actually becoming really popular in Columbus also (since the beginning of 2008). The most popular dance nights in this city are using this exact concept.

  • I just hope that a 4 deck + effects oriented controller comes to the market. A more acce$ible version of the Xone4D…

  • Whitey

    [quote post="1024"]The struggle will be to keep audiences dancing and not staring at the screen.[/quote]

    I agree with this as it has been the case with Vjs that I have seen. A good tune comes on and people stop to watch the vid or like watching themselves dancing when a camera is pointed on them.

    I predict that during gigs in 2009:

    I will still frequently be fending off those guys who come up and say 'I used to do a bit of this'

    I will be be offered to fight someone for not playing a track – Why does not playing a track invoke so much anger in some people? I am sure if they like a track so much they already have it at home anyway.

    More than one girl next year will come up and say 'have you got any decent music that we can dance to?' – My answer to this should be – 'No, I am going to keep playing this stuff that everyone is dancing to anyway in the hope that they will disappear soon from the floor so that I can then play some of your 'decent' music' – Alas, that is never my answer!!

    Happy New Year everyone

    🙂

  • Dave Function

    I predict Vestax will come out with a VCI-400 with 14 bit platters /sliders like on 300, larger fx section, large platters..Like a VCI-300 but no built in audio …like a VCI-300 but improved and cheaper version of a VCI-300.

    we see

  • For '09 Clubs will lose there fire & dive bars will be the new happening spots. Here in L.A. Dive bars is what is in, with no covers, cheap stiff drinks, and dj's replacing the jukeboxes. I have already seen this trend starting to grow like a wild fire.

    "Digital Dj's" are in, & traditional dj's will be out, why?

    More Music…

    A traditional dj can only play what he has in his record crate, "Us" on the other hand are only limited to how much music we have on our hard drives. 20Gb = 2500 song vs 2 crates = 100 vinyls.

  • DJ Bear

    I predict that none of the predictions above will come true…

    Just playing.

    Happy new year to all!

  • B33SON

    I predict club owners will still ask me if I can mix “like real djs” by using vinyl or CDJs.