With Apple now allowing all Ipad apps to directly access music in the Itunes music library, a bevy of new programs will begin to offer the first peeks at what future ipad djing might look like. In the example above, the Djay software from Algoriddim has been ported over to the Ipad with a few nice touch elements that appear to work quite well. Numark also explores the paradigm of auto mixing with the IDJ app, which we have after the break.
Numark IDJ IPAD APP
There is one other application (that we know of) that is currently taking advantage of the new Itunes access. It’s a Numark release called IDJ that enables mix tape/mix sequence creation with “patented” auto Beatmatching technology. It appears to be a really simplified version of Ableton’s sequence view where you can lay out a mix and draw in transitions with automatic tempo matching. Perhaps for a quick and dirty tempo-matched playlist, this might be a handy tool to have around.
What do you think of these apps? We are still waiting with baited breath for all the crazy controller apps that will surely surface once MIDI-In and Out is finally released in 4.2. A preview of what might be coming is the following video; weird out of the box interfaces that combine animated graphics, multi -touch and a smidgen of magic.
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Wow. You can do complicated scratching without touching the crossfader. If that isn’t the definition of “cheating” then what is?
WOW. This shit is gettin’ ouutta control! I’m actually working on cutting back and trying to use a more minimal approach, But, Grrrrrrr, all this sweet technologic DJ porn is making it VERY difficult!
Well yes the Ipad has great innovation opportunities but this example is just garbage. We’ll have to wait for a better example of it’s capabilities.
What does gaslamp killer use? he is always jamming out on an ipad..
Thats what im sayin…what program is that?
[quote comment=”40447″]windz one get off djtt and go play some more beiber in the mix for your tween demographic at middle school dances.
dj windz one+ipad+beiber tracks=tween love
congrats on being a real dj, bro[/quote]
stop being such a shithead.
[quote comment=”40395″]Since this is the first time I can remember Algoriddim being mentioned on DJTT, I’m going to give them some massive props here. They’ve created one of the best apps I’ve ever used by a country mile with DJay. On Mac OS X, it’s simple, elegant, and powerful, and it looks like the iPad version is shaping up to be the same. The iPhone/iPod Touch app gives you an awesome way to get in the crowd and keep tearing it up. AND they listen to their users, but not at the expense of usability. Perfect example: their implementation of waveforms. Had no idea how they were going to pull that off given the current UI is already perfect (my opinion only).
I know this is primarily a Traktor community, but I’d say to any Intel Mac user here who can’t find the cash (or the time) for Serato or Traktor (fine products all the same), at least download the demo for Mac OS X. It had me hooked from the first mix I tried all the way back in its freeware days. I’m using it right now with a standard VCI-100 (soon to receive the 1.4 firmware upgrade), an iPad with a custom TouchOSC layout, and my newly acquired Midi-Fighter #447 with great results.
If you’re an iPad user, see the above.
And for the iPad haters, I don’t know if you caught this, but you’re at DJ Tools. I don’t hate vinyl. I had a moment of silence when I heard about the 1200’s. Just saying.[/quote]
+1 – Isaac you have hit the nail on the head beautifully. On all counts.
So much hate…
The real deal is that:
a) this shit is really cool. while you may not do a show with it, it’s a fun little toy. stop yelling.
b) I’m still gonna cry wolf on the djay video. It looks REAL fake. The cross fader is moving on it’s own, for peet’s sake. And is it REALLY sensitive enough for him to scratch like that? C’mon, let’s be real here.
Otherwise, cool beans, lots of fun tech here. SO appropriate for this spectacular website!
god this bud is making me even dumber cause I wrote edition and not addition in my previous post.
Here’s to new technology
This is the way to go as an edition to help out current setups.
Why hate on it. It’s just another tools to utilize. The only thing you really will not be able to do on touch screen is scratch well (at least not with current standards)
Same reason that the pad emulations on the ipad will never replace velocity sensitive pad controllers. (but they can still do a decent job)
Can’t wait for the next generation of the ipad! If they give up a usb port and a full blow OS, more memory, processor then I’m IN
This is awesome! I really can not wait to see what developer will come up with!
[quote comment=”40383″]@Kru-Kut
you’ll be a proper DJ when you’ve got regular gigs and your mum gives you permission to stay up late enough to go to them.[/quote]
Ha! I Like!!!
Lame. Thats all i got to say about that…
Hi guys.
I think the negative towards iPad DJing is uncalled for. Anyone interested in music – be it enthusiasts or professionals – can appreciate a little fun with a great music app, especially on the iPad’s fantastic UI.
Anyway, I’ve spent a day with the iDJ app for iPad mentioned above. It looks really promising and I’m working on a hands-on that’s turning into a review. I’ve made a mix tape that’ll upload once I get back home (I just have my iPad with me). But it’s safe to say that iDJ has a lot of potential.
Lundmark
good one from apply that is why its always gonna be my number brand…
windz one get off djtt and go play some more beiber in the mix for your tween demographic at middle school dances.
dj windz one+ipad+beiber tracks=tween love
congrats on being a real dj, bro
[quote comment=”40422″][quote post=”8959″]You are not a dj if you use this app. ‘Nuff said.[/quote]
You’re not a DJ. . . . .nuff said. . . .[/quote]
lol i checked your mixes…you play beiber in the mix. if thats a qualification for being a real dj, then im not even close
@will marshall
thank you very much, good information to have
@maytal
No one has any right to search your computer for songs, any right to demand ‘receipts’ and any way of telling whether a given copy of a song infringes copyright or not (pro tip: even if you downloaded it legally you’re probably still infringing copyright when caching it in Ableton, backing it up or similar)
They made the app more flashy than they did useful. Say goodbye to microwave DJ’s and hello to the nanowave wave era. Turntables are dying and it’s an oxymoron putting a vinyl like programs into a digital system that just the DJ will probably see. It’s a cheap market ploy. Only until the big name sequence, and digital DJ company’s start coming out with apps will I start taking the ipad seriously. I’m crossing my fingers for an ableton session view app.
This one looks great too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEnw0xUUZYM
Nudging/scrubbing waveforms you can see has lots of merit.
Until you can get an external soundcard on an ipad it’s really just toys though. I imagine it won’t be long though.
Seriously does Apple pay you guys?
Dance music drives the DJ technology and technology drives dance music. They have always been linked, go and read your DJ history. This is just another step.
The same as the bloke further up the thread, 99% of the crowd dont care. Do you think the crowd gave a sh*t when I stopped using vinyl and went to CDJ ? No. Do you think the crowd gave a sh*t when I went digital? No.
If you want to DJ in a bar/club environment and get paid it’s all about the music and making people happy.
I see many people using their iPod at a party and calling themselves a DJ. Do you think the people who are dancing and enjoying themselves care? No.
Perhaps raging against the latest technology is an age thing, I would have thought it was the “older” DJ’s who would be complaining, I’m the wrong side of 30 and I love the new stuff coming out. I perhaps wouldn’t want to use it at some of my gigs but that’s my choice.
I’ve still bought an S4 from this site though, I’ve played several gigs with it and do the crowd care? No. I’ve still got my 1210’s, I love them, but I dont have to carry a toolkit to clubs anymore and I like that.
Just like music, everyone likes to DJ differently but we all do the same thing, try to make people dance and have a good time.
Just remember this one thing, 99% of the crowd dont care what you are using, just be good at whatever you are doing.
Cheers
JLB
The Red Bull BPM app allows to access the iPod library as well, as long as you have iOS 4 or up installed (iPhone, iPad). Pretty nice app I must admit…
Details can be found here: http://www.redbull.com/redbullbpm
if somebody could rock a party with one of these apps that would be the definition of a REAL DJ… technics would look so uncool in comparison
On a side note for this. . . .Wait to see if there’s going to be a lag issue with this. . .been wanting a JazzMutant Lemur for a while. . .but I ain’t bout to spend $2000-$2500 for one. . .
Not to mention I’m on PC =/
[quote post=”8959″]You are not a dj if you use this app. ‘Nuff said.[/quote]
You’re not a DJ. . . . .nuff said. . . .
You are not a dj if you use this app. ‘Nuff said.
[quote comment=”40371″]
I would love to experiment with a Reactable, but in order to that with the real thing I would have to pay 9,700 Euros and I don’t think that’s something I can look into at the moment, so maybe one day I’ll try the app for it on an ipad first (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbo2Wk5PgVQ) while I saved me some bucks for my guitar strings and such.[/quote]
You’re going to spend over 9,000 Euros on guitar strings? Lucky guitar!! 😛
This is brilliant. I’ve been playing gigs for 21 years (I’m now 39), so I’m as qualified as the next bore in a Trasnmatt T-shirt to say how crap this is. But it’s not. It’s joyful and fun and mindblowing. Twenty years people were moaning about CD decks. Now they’re a fixture in every club.
The things that a lot of DJs can’t deal with is that people want to go to a clubs to have fun, listen to music, take drugs and maybe take someone home at the end of the night. We’ve been doing it for thousands of years and it’s not going to change now. Our job as DJs is to provide a soundtrack that enhances what is essentially the mating rituals of our species.
If a DJ used this app in a club NO ONE WOULD NOTICE. As long as the tunes are good, and they’re programmed to reflect what the crowd needs at that part of the night, then it doesn’t matter to them whether you play on vinyl, a controller or CDJs. What matters most is the quality of the music.
This app is just another reason why I’ve got more excited about DJing now than at any time since the early 1990s. You can just imagine turning up at a house party or little club and rocking the gaff with your iPad. “Party set? No problem, lads, let’s get right on it.”
I’ve had several pairs of Technics, took heavy record bags full of expensive shrink-wrapped vinyl to gigs all around the world, and the idea of turning up with an iPad and rocking a club makes me feel 17 again. Change is inevitable – if we go against it, we might as well stop being human beings.
[quote comment=”40402″]That djay app from algorriddim LOOK FREAKIN SICK. When I get an iPad, that is the first app I will buy. I honestly think I could dj a club with that…[/quote]
…..pooooooooooooorly
[quote comment=”40383″]@Kru-Kut
you’ll be a proper DJ when you’ve got regular gigs and your mum gives you permission to stay up late enough to go to them.[/quote]
Say What!? Kru-Kut’s the hottest around baby! Have fun playin videogames in the booth staring at a screen and not feeling out the crowd. you probably play tunecore on your little ipod mixer and think youre so good but couldnt even put a needle on a record without instruction
That junk is wack! Why would I want to use an ipad to mimic what I already do on turntables and controllers. I’v used ipad dj apps and the fact is, using a small touch screen to dj is not fun, it’s not expressive enough, and a mimic is not as good as the real thing.
I don’t like using touch screens for djing. I hope dj companies don’t turn their focus away from real, expressive hardware.
Guys, its MixMeister! it was bought out by numark and looks like they made a app. Look at the photo below
http://www.numark.com/stuff/contentmgr/files/26/0344cd0bcf1e47838329b2981cec4b4a/files/splash433.png
What would be cool is if you could transfer your Traktor softwear from your laptop to the I PAD so you could do some quick mixes, organize traks, store loops and all that good stuff.
In a novelty sense i guess it’s a cool idea, in the same way that playing djhero2 is. But if i ever see someone trying to play a set with any of this i’m throwing my drink at them.
Unless technological progress screeches to a halt, in the upcoming years these sorts of interfaces will be able to handle Hi-Fi worthy DJ applications.
In the meantime, these make great controllers.
Knobs are great and all, but I can’t take my knob box and just decide I want/need a couple more knobs/sliders/etc. If nobody produces a product that fits my specifications, I’m SOL (of course there are talented folks that are capable of controller mods; I’m not one of them).
The economy sucks and I can’t afford nor justify an IPad at this time; however, I am in possession of an IPod touch which I am using with Griid. While I’m anxiously awaiting them to update it, it is fabulous having a clip launcher that has the clip name/color on the clip. With sets rich in variation clips and dummy clips this is crucial. While I love my launchpad, it’s easy to get lost on it with a technical layout.
If you have an IPad, you might want to check out Touch-Able. I’ve seen it used live and it seems to really enable the user to get into the thick of Ableton efficiently.
While this website user interactions are some of the most civil and insightful I’ve found online; I am still left baffled by propensity toward elitism when it comes to methods of DJ-ing. Those of us on the far side of digital DJ-ing do get a bit defensive on these posts, but it’s because we’re driven to it. Seriously, what’s the point of calling somebody a homo because they are using a different bit of kit than you? I’ll call it what it is, fetishism.
While I’m sure there is a sector of our community that would scoff at a DJ who won’t move forward; most of us that are moving forward still enjoy and can appreciate more archaic DJ methods 😉 Sort of like a modern metal smith can appreciate an iron worker who still uses a hammer to flatter their wares.
1.5 cents,
I’m really liking Sonorosaurus Rex. Now that iTunes library access is possible, that app is going to soar to unheard-of heights.
You’re looking at this ALL wrong. It is a tool. Imagine you’re stuck on a plane or train or car in traffic. You have an idea for a new set you wanna put together. You whip out the iPad and rough out a set. You get home and refine that set on your REAL set-up. for beginners this would be a fun and CHEAP way to start off, then if they REALLY wanna do it they might get some pro kit. Stop being so closed minded. Everything changes. If the change is for the better, or for worse, is up to YOU.
P.S. Technics 1200’s til the death of me.
That djay app from algorriddim LOOK FREAKIN SICK. When I get an iPad, that is the first app I will buy. I honestly think I could dj a club with that…
[quote post=”8959″]I think anything that pushes DJing into the hands of as many of the population as possible, in as many places as possible, is brilliant. Can’t wait to get my hands on that and have a go – great fun for putting mixes together on the bus. What’s the problem?[/quote]
I would love to do this on the bus but I live in LA and I am sure to get jacked if I whip out an IPAD.
I think anything that pushes DJing into the hands of as many of the population as possible, in as many places as possible, is brilliant. Can’t wait to get my hands on that and have a go – great fun for putting mixes together on the bus. What’s the problem?
the idea is cool but its for those new djs that dont know how to build a set, dont know how to program, dont know how to read a crowd, oh and its for those guys that have never used a real pitch control slider to manualy beat match a song….
very cool, interested to see how this develops. i still like the feel of analog knobs, jog wheels, sliders etc tho.
ean,
this web site is a text book for dj info, i’ve learned so much i would never have thought to research on my own. if you have the time could you do an article on music policy, i know offically downloading music and playing it is illegal, but is it enforced? I want to legitimize my collection eventually but its not really a priority for me. should it be?(still saving up for the S4 and a laptop) has anyone ever questioned the “legality” of your music collection, asked for recipts or to look through your computer etc? this seems like a grey area to me. thank you ahead of time for any help
Again, for the iPad haters, you’re at DJ TECH Tools. (Forum didn’t like my HTML style bracketing on TECH in my original post).
Since this is the first time I can remember Algoriddim being mentioned on DJTT, I’m going to give them some massive props here. They’ve created one of the best apps I’ve ever used by a country mile with DJay. On Mac OS X, it’s simple, elegant, and powerful, and it looks like the iPad version is shaping up to be the same. The iPhone/iPod Touch app gives you an awesome way to get in the crowd and keep tearing it up. AND they listen to their users, but not at the expense of usability. Perfect example: their implementation of waveforms. Had no idea how they were going to pull that off given the current UI is already perfect (my opinion only).
I know this is primarily a Traktor community, but I’d say to any Intel Mac user here who can’t find the cash (or the time) for Serato or Traktor (fine products all the same), at least download the demo for Mac OS X. It had me hooked from the first mix I tried all the way back in its freeware days. I’m using it right now with a standard VCI-100 (soon to receive the 1.4 firmware upgrade), an iPad with a custom TouchOSC layout, and my newly acquired Midi-Fighter #447 with great results.
If you’re an iPad user, see the above.
And for the iPad haters, I don’t know if you caught this, but you’re at DJ Tools. I don’t hate vinyl. I had a moment of silence when I heard about the 1200’s. Just saying.
I think a lot of people are bashing these things bc they think it’s supposed to be on the same level of a professional dj controller or the real deal wheels of steel set-up …
but if you think of it as “just a dumb toy to mess around with when you happen to have an ipad and not your legit dj rig on hand” …. it can be seen as a fun little thing to mess around with on the couch, train/plane/automobile etc etc
relax and enjoi technology … if not let others enjoi it!
The iPad touch screen is not good enough to accurately scratch nor crossfade for that matter. I’ve tried few ‘dj’ apps with my iPad but doesn’t come close to the ‘feel’ real knobs/jogs/hardware in my experience.
The latency can be measured with a stopwatch. Maybe fingers are too big?
BCondemi
Wow, some of the attitudes of people who are completely against this kind of innovation seriously shock me. I can understand if you want to stick with what you learned on, or have a soft spot for certain technologies, but to just be completely against it and criticize people for expanding their toolset and embracing new technology is just pathetic. People like you are the reason some people think DJs are nothing but elitist douchebags with huge attitude problems and good taste in music.
It’s still a new idea and open to lots of testing and changes. You don’t need to take everything as face value. Its a bit of fun and could be useful in the future! Geez people I don’t understand alot of your guys negative comments towards this thread.
That’s cute and call, but I don’t get how you are so excited for this, but still wrote an article a couple of days ago about “What is the right amount of hard” – that the shits getting to easy?!
I (admit) don’t have the nicest gear, but I think this is pretty JV in comparison.
@Kru-Kut
you’ll be a proper DJ when you’ve got regular gigs and your mum gives you permission to stay up late enough to go to them.
[quote comment=”40373″ Sticking with my Technics. I’d rather be a real dj than play videogames on an iPad.[/quote]
Why not a pair of technics and an I PAD app to trigure effects, hot cues and loops. A “real” DJ is anything you want him to be.
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Patent from 2008:
http://www.hispasonic.com/noticias/apple-patenta-herramienta-dj-pantalla-tactil-10956
2011 Ipad 2 and iTraktor, Ableton iLive…
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These apps are toys. Poor audio out options on the current iPad prevent cue monitoring. If this changes somehow you could see better apps for djing.
However I have been using the iPad as a control surface for Traktor and Ableton and it works great! Just rock up with MacBook and an iPad and go!
aside from using the ipad itself as a midi controller, i think it would be nice to have it just run a dj app and use a midi controller with it. i think in a previous article on this subject Ean or somebody mentioned maybe just taking a midifighter, ipad, and audio interface to a gig.
that would be pretty awesome.
currently the smallest and least expensive *almost suitable things are netbooks, but those atom processors really fall short with handling audio.
so if an ipad can do it better, and be cheaper and lighter than most laptops, then good news 🙂
This is just awful. Seriously. I know Macs are cool and Im gonna buy one soon but I dont get this iPad hype at all. And please dont tell me that the soundcard in that tablet is suitable for regular “real” gigs. I dont believe you.
Sticking with my Technics. I’d rather be a real dj than play videogames on an iPad.
Can’t wait until the market starts to get saturated with midi-capable music apps which have access to the iTunes library!
Interesting Ean, thanks for sharing.
I have never used a touch screen interface to mess around with my music and this, (Meaning the Ipad music apps) is definitively an “affordable way” to bring this to the masses.
It would be interesting to see what applications are developed and give them a try. But as far as the first video goes, to me there’s nothing like playing with real turntables. Obviously you have to pay the price in order to do that and to many people that is just starting that’s simply not possible when you can get the whole thing plus more for the price of just one turntable that by itself won’t do a thing.
I would love to experiment with a Reactable, but in order to that with the real thing I would have to pay 9,700 Euros and I don’t think that’s something I can look into at the moment, so maybe one day I’ll try the app for it on an ipad first (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbo2Wk5PgVQ) while I saved me some bucks for my guitar strings and such.
Best!