DIY Mod: Get A Mixer To Work With Traktor Scratch

Let’s see if this still works. :-p

How to sertify traktor 2.10 on MAC OS El-Capitan. I’ve olready solved the issue with 2.6.3, but after installing new version, the HEX redactor can’t find the Pioneer 750 in Traktor file. May be it’s because of the language… How to fix it? Thank you.

Anybody gotten this to work with a DDJ SX2 and timecode vinyl (or CD, I suppose).

Well Well ….. Good old vinyls and a pair of sl1210mkII and your only worry will be replacing faders on your mixer from time to time 🙂 So bye bye JUkebox-Deejay’s

Hi Everyone,

My apologies for the size of the post. It wasn’t my intention for it to be this long when I started typing it but I got a bit worked up over it.

Props to DJTT for the article!!! Keep it up guys!!! Been loving the stuff this last couple of year.

I’m unfortunately posting anonymously as I work for a company that deals with native instruments and I cannot say what i need to say openly but I would like to share my thoughts on this matter. (Albeit a bit late)

For starters I too am very disappointed at the “hacking is bad” reactions here. Corporate marketing is doing a good job and programming some people it seems. Anyways, just wanted to share a few points.

1) I am an old school DJ and I use to hack the shit out of everything I could (to this day)

Prime examples are game consoles: Turning my first XBOX into a media center as well as an emulator for my old Nintendo games. This doesn’t mean I didn’t purchase games I just Unlocked the potential of my machine. Hacking your tools to make them do what you need/want them to do is resourceful and rewarding.

Another more relevant example is when I use to run DVS with Torq. I loved the software but hated the hardware. That connectiv sound card was just a POS. I use to run it with my Audio 8 instead. I unfortunately had to carry both sound cards. I would have to plug the m-audio one when launching the program (sort of like a dongle but then I could unplug it after the program started, great security there m-audio I thought). One day I came across a “Hack” and I was happy as a clam. It allowed me to run Torq with the audio 8 without having the m-audio card. Eventually when Torq 2.0 was released they
removed the hardware lock (i guess someone was thinking straight at avid) However by that point I deiced to Migrate to traktor and haven’t looked back since. Traktor is the
Cat’s Meow, Serato with their plug and pray system can suck it.

I AM A TRAKTOR DJ!!!

2) Traktor has been losing allot of traction (no pun intended but that came out kind of funny) in the last couple of years. Allot of the new controllers from Pioneer DJ, Numark and Vestax are all Serato DJ controllers. I feel that NI has been focusing way too much on their controllers and have abandoned us who use their software but prefer other
hardware. Almost like were being punished for not using there mediocre controllers.
(However there soundcards are monsters, my Audio 8 is awesomesauce!)

We Traktor DJs use Traktor because we can make it our little bitch and do what we want it to. (Even though sometimes she is stubborn and crashes cause of flakey updates)

The fact that Virtual DJ Pro natively supports more Controllers and CDJs then Traktor is shameful.

3) Serato has learned this lesson and created the “CLUB KIT” for $169. It will allow you to use Serato with Traktor Certified Mixers like the DJM-850/900NXS and even some of the Allen and Heath Ones. I really dislike Serato but I have to give it to them on this one. (I’m sure if there was a traktor equivalent most of us would happily pay it)

My message to Native Instruments is stop being such tight wads and let us do what we need to do. Let us use your amazing software the way it was intended. (Before you guys got heavy into hardware and lost sight of what traktor is) As an open and free flowing platform that can be bent to our needs.

My final message is to the haters out there who think this is hack is a bad idea. Start using the brains you were given and you will see you can accomplish amazing things.
We unfortunately now live in an era where allot of the hardware and software we use which was once predominantly used by industry professionals is now predominately a prosumer, armature or iZombie* market. These are people who mostly have no idea about the tools themselves and are not tech savvy. We DJs use to be Audio/DJ Tech Geek uber Nerds who knew how to tear our shit apart and put it back together in our
sleep. Not so much now.

Back in the days most DJs, producers, sounds techs, etc would always have something in there setup hot-wired in some way. That’s just how it was. This is the legacy we are from and we shouldn’t so easily throw it out the window cause corporations whose
only interest is to sell you a new controller or sound card every year tells
you otherwise.

*iZombie; An iZombie is a tool who knows nothing about the technology he wants, who just keeps consuming it cause he was told he needs the new version and does stuff like walking into the apple store and tells tell the apple store IZombie salesman “So I kind of want to do what deadmau5 does…”

Yes Folks I’ve seen this kinda thing first hand.

Alright I’m stepping down from my soapbox now.

Peace All! 🙂

This process works flawlessly with a DB4 and Traktor Scratch Pro (incl. Most recent update, late 2014)….

I wish NI would be more inclusive of non native gear (no pun intended). It’s really doing loyal consumers an injustice when certain groups or gear is made incompatible through programming just to sell a few more audio cards. It would be like a car manufacturer selling a car that’s only compatible with their tires or their oil. Stuff like this should never fly in the real world, which is probably why the concept of dvs will remain a niche market and fall into obscurity. Too bad, it’s a hell of a lot of fun playing digital files with a real vinyl controller

Thank you for posting this video and walk through. It works every time, and with every update. I had to search for “ALLEN” instead of “XONE:4D” in Hex Fiend with the 2.7.3 software update to find where to edit the text FYI.

Very much appreciated. My DB4 works seamlessly with vinyl now and without an NI external Audio interface!

P.S. I bought my copy of Traktor. Enjoy your day.

great read! I’m sure NI will add official support if it’s good for both business and users. In general I think NI deserves praise for compatibility overall. Traktor Pro 2 can be controlled by 3rd party MIDI devices like Korg padKONTROL & M-Audio Oxygen8. NI hardware can be used as MIDI controllers. I’d point to backward compatibility with earlier NI products as their bigger issue.

This is blessed 🙂

Nice thing to see such hacks around 🙂

I had zero problems with a (allegedly not-supported) RME babyface and Traktor. I Just set it up the usual way, external and internal (the card’s internal 42 channel mixer, FX and EQ section with an Akai APC40 or a Korg MC2 as MIDI interface) mixing, MIDI controller, TTs, done. Works like a charm.

if this works by renaming the device as its detected by the software could you instead take a arduino board and make a usb in/out box that just renames you usb device prior to the connection to you computers usb port and then have it work with everything ?

You know, it is pretty frustrating that the only difference between a ‘traktor scratch certified soundcard’ and a regular soundcard is whether the USB device name is included in the startup script of traktor. They sell it like their hardware has a special magical component. Like when people say that the djm 900 SRT has the special serato hardware, and the djm 900 nexus has the special traktor ready soundcard, when actually they are just allowing/disallowing certain soundcards from understanding timecode in the software.

At least NI isn’t nickle and dime-ing loyal customers like Serato is currently. As soon as someone does a similar hack for Serato DJ to work with older Rane hardware, the better. I actually switched back to Traktor Scratch after watching the Serato cash grab called SDJ and feeling disgusted. Oh…I need a new 24-bit interface to play 2 mp3 files back-to-back and I need to pay an extra $20 each time you upgrade the effects…Bullsh*t! They could have easily made a SDJ add-on for legacy hardware and charged for it to make extra revenue. That would have been better than suggesting users spend $500+ and replace perfectly good working hardware just to stay current.

If i was from N.I , and by looking at the questions being asked below about serato , rane ect i would haul be seriously looking at the owners of this site and the same applies to the original poster of this info … give yourself a clap .

Hey DJ Techtools,

i’ve also seen a Vestax VCI-400 [SE] and a Denon MC6000 using Traktor Timecode.
Especially for products you sell on your own (vci400) it would be nice to get to know things like that 😉 and maybe you could publish some “how-to”s :>

Greetings from Germany,
Frank

I find this to be a great MOD. People are entitled to do whatever they want with the hardware and software they purchased. As long as you don’t bitch about it later of how often it crashes etc. Just enjoy the wonders of how everything these days can be hacked and liberated from the companies restrictions.

An interesting read, but sticking this on the front page of your website doesn’t seem the brightest of moves.
Surely, all you’ve done by posting this on a widely read DJ website is almost guarantee that N.I. will fix this loophole (Condoning hacking of licensed software may also damage your credibility, but that’s another argument).
Doesn’t this also put one of your own forum admins who has a similar role on N.I’s forums in a slightly tricky position?