Technics Launches SL-1200GR Turntable At CES, It’s Still $2,000

Panasonic held a quick press event at CES 2017, during which they introduced the Technics SL-1200GR. It’s another direct-drive turntable system, but it’s still designed for audio enthusiasts, not DJs. The price? $2,000 per unit.

Technics SL-1200GR at CES 2017

The concept of introducing a lower-priced version of a high-end model is one that’s familiar to almost every consumer electronics manufacturer. That’s exactly what Panasonic did with this new version of the SL-1200, but instead of putting it in a price range that becomes reasonable for DJs looking to casually add turntables, they built a model that’s still absurdly expensive.

For $2,000 a piece, many DJs will have a hard time not comparing purchasing these decks to buying top-of-the-line CDJs from Pioneer. The SL-1200GR might make sense if you’re a die-hard vinyl DJ who wants a top-of-the-line deck, but it still won’t have any features that you can’t find on similar, cheaper offerings from Stanton, Pioneer DJ, Reloop, and others.

Update (4:30 PM 1/5/15): It looks like Westend DJ, a shop in the UK is reporting that they’ve heard the Technics SL-1200GR will be priced at £1300 each. Assuming the current pound-to-dollar applies here, that’s only $1,613 – a bit more reasonable.   

Tech Specs vs SL-1200G

The SL-1200GR has a lot of the same technical specifications as the higher-end models – it still has the coreless direct-drive motor, motor control technology, high-ridigity platter, high-sensitivty tonearm, etc. Compared to the SL-1200G, this model has

  • slightly lower starting torque (2.2 kg/cm vs 3.3 kg/cm)
  • A solely aluminum die-cast platter (as opposed to a brass and aluminum platter)
  • A slightly lighter platter (2.5 kg vs 3.6 kg)
  • The dimensions of the unit are exactly the same.

See the full tech specs on Technics’ official announcement here

Why Technics is continuing to launch expensive turntables? Read why they’re simply not interested in selling to DJs. 

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  • trader guy

    it would be nice to have a brand new 1200 but the price is just to far out there to justify buying one .

  • CDM TURTLES

    Ok, I gotta address this. First off, I tune for the hi-FI shows. Here’s pretty much how a niche product works.

    First off, why is the 1200 a niche market? Well if they just retooled exactly the original 1200- they would be competing against their own 2nd,3rd,4th,5th,6th,7th,8th,9th hand USED 1200s. And 1200s do hold their value. I did by pure luck buy a like new 1200 still with stiff cue and stylus illuminator pop up for $100 from the Aspen CO. Library mostly because it was donated with Lemmo connectors and a Linn Trak low output moving coil cartridge and the library couldn’t figure out how to use it because, well they are not into extending any effort and are overpaid at $120k for a librarian.

    So what’s the point of making a new 1200 at today’s dollars and trying to amortize that same quality tooling once again ? Not much. I was a DJ when the 1200 came out. Turntables were the standard and it seemed every city had many dedicated HiFI shops. NYC had, just off the top of my head in Manhattan alone, Crazy Eddies, Lyric Hi-FI, sound by singer, stereo exchange, burgers audio (I worked there) , Audio Salon (I worked there, but didn’t like the owners who were beyond horrible to customers) , Harvey’s audio, Harvey’s pro audio, and about a zillion mom and pop shops that sold “mid-FI gear” as well s Tech-HiFi ( several locations). The 1200 sold about 3 million units. Out of so many shops.

    I doubt that even if they were to drop the cost of a 1200 to $200 that they could even sell 100,000 units.

    And with many clones- some of which were sonically on par or superior to the old 1200MKII and 1210MK5 for cheap, what is the point of going into a saturated market? No point really.

    To make a better product you have to make a ground breaking product and then work down, and amortize your staff and production costs as well …if possible shared tooling.

    So Tesla made :

    Tesla Roadster a small production expensive sports car
    The Model S a versatile higher performance 4door family sedan
    The Model X (based upon the exact are platform -save for towing reinforcement) a tech SUV. WITH AUTOMATIC DOORSand other convenience

    Then they had amortized the factory and tooling, and operations management and got the parts costs (read battery cells) in such numbers as to make an affordable car

    The Telsa Model 3. 0-60 6 seconds $30,000

    Well Technics made:

    1200GAE a Limited edition all new tooling model with special feet, a dual rotor coreless non cogging motor (still cogs just less than 1/2 as much as the old 1200) heavy 3 layer platter , 3 layer plinth, special improved tone arm bearings, wore and assembly, real quality control. Improved pitch control and pitch faders, more torque, better isolation. And most importantly you can hear a lot more detail in the music better bass delineation, better sound stage, improved resolution. It’s probably the ONLY HIGH END PRODUCT that has ever been made by a huge mass marketed Japanese firm . And no I won’t count a small specialized companies like Stax, Koetsu, Accuphase, Audio Note. We are talking a large electronics conglomerate that is used to moving tons of boxes like Sony, JVC, PIONEER making something that the High End audio press actually notices.

    I heard the 1200GAE twice and realized it was not just a DJ turntable but a turntable that could compete favorably and won against very expensive cost no object High end turntables. And the bonus is that you could , for the first time ever, DJ almost normally (depending on stylus and style) and deliver to a huge crowd, what great audio sounds like when it is reproduced properly, with more emotional content THAN EVER BEFORE.

    I have been trying to do this since the 1980s when I used to use Mitsubishi LT-30 turntables to DJ along with a 1200. I’d mix the lesser quality vinyl pressings on the 1200 and fade in the the better sounding ones on the Mitsubishi LT-30. I used high end pre-amps that doubled for Pro audio The Apt Holman Pre amp and Bryston 4bs with some surprisingly good smooth sounding ALNiCO magnets JBL drivers in custom boxes with custom high end crossovers.

    So the
    Technics 1200 GAE = Tesla Model S P100D with Ludicrious mode 0-60 2.5 sec
    $4000 limited edition magnesium tone arm, silicon feet

    Technics 1200G is like a Tesla Model S P85D with insane mode 3.2 sec
    $4000 but without as good feet, though it came as a bonus with a similar arm to the GAE instead of the aluminum arm as promised still with dual flat rotors

    Technics 1200GR is like a Tesla Model S 60 0-60 in 5.5 seconds $1600 with aluminum arm, single rotor

    And soon if we are lucky , we might see a $1200 1200 as the molds get slowly amortized but I wouldn’t expect it for at least another year likely 2-3 years.

    Look NOTHING is the same about the table compared to an older 1210MK5 or 1200MKII other than it looking similar in a low resolution photo . The old tops were plastic, these are machined aluminum .

    The old 1200 platters were often out of round and not milled right. KAB in NJ would redrill and RECENTER the off center platters. You could visually see the old 1200s were not rounded correctly.

    So the new 1200GAE … Well that is a higher mass platter, it doesn’t ring like the old platter as it is damped with brass and aluminum and rubber- it weighs at least double the old platte if not triple . They balance them using bullet train wheel balancing techniques, they are on center, they aren’t bent and are checked by a laser. The speed control is better as it is taken from a Blu-ray circuit, The older 1200 MKII had better speed and pitch stability than later the 1210MK5.

    The list of improvements go on so much that I can say the old 1200 which struggled and supremely failed to sound as good as even an Denon direct drive table or a Mitsubishi LT-30 linear tracking turntable which were borderline Mid-FI hi-FI. Well let’s just say the 1200GAE has ZERO shortcomings that could ever place it as a mid-FI turntable. It is possible that the arm could be improved upon, but it really is a massive improvement over the subpar old 1200 arm. Even the internal wiring was upgraded.

    It’s not just “retooled” I think it is fair to say the new 1200 series are completely reinvented from scratch using modern day tech and a much higher old world artisanry from Japan.

    They didn’t shun the vinyl DJ AT ALL ….instead they FINALLY MADE IT POSSIBLE TO SHOW HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE AT A TIME JUST HOW GREAT VINYL CAN SOUND.

    They have given DJs a vinyl upgrade path.

    So in a few years time, someone can buy an old 1200, get better, upgrade to a newer 1210Mk5 ( not that much of a leap up) or go for a 1200GR big leap forward, or a 1200GAE huge leap forward.

    Now if the club uses some JBL IONS in mono.. It won’t make a heck of a difference. But it will in production, And some clubs just might step up their audio quality. One reason , amongst many that clubs are so few compared to to the 1980s is that so few clubs today sound even 1/4 as good as the good sounding clubs of the 1980s.

    Gone are the Richard Long and Associates designed super clubs. Gone are those wonderful sounding Bozak Mixers with Frako capacitors, gone are clubs that could have furnishings to absorb reflections ( now fire codes only allow for so much combustible material so they sound more like gymnasiums or tiled bathrooms)

    That’s an entire other story waiting to be told.

    Johngilmour@rocketmail.com

    • kebzer

      John, Panasonic should have hired you for their press release, instead of that prick.

      From your point of view I could agree, but only if the actual product is manufactured that good and that is something that most of us will never get to test. The og mk2 dominated the market because it was priced reasonably enough and a lot of people got their hands with it and could spread the word. The new ones will probably never reach even 1/10 of the countries that have active DJs playing with TTs.

      They have not marketed it correctly. If they simply told DJs that it is the return of the king, everybody would be drooling even at 2000 a piece.

  • dirkdirgler

    I’ve got 2 SL1200MKII’s back in the 90’s for 385$ and still kicking ass i’m fine thank you…

  • djtorchMusic

    I would’ve like to see Technics improve on their shitty CDJ Type deck that looked like a mini 1200. It was a great idea just horrible performance. (SL-DZ1200)

  • djtorchMusic

    If it’s not for Dj’s (which is fine) why is it being reported on here?

  • Duff Champ

    Pointless. A product for gimps with more money than sense

  • TBM

    €1000 a unit will have been the sweet spot for me.

    €400 more expensive than the PLX 1000.

    The extra €400 will have been the nostalgia tax and I wouldn’t have minded.

    By the way Pioneer doesn’t force anyone to change CDJs. It’s the insatiable appetite for shiny new toys that pushes folks to want the “latest and greatest”. Did the CDJ 2000 MK1 suddenly stop reading USBs when they released the Nexus or NX2?

    I understand yearning to change gear to accommodate perhaps a change in medium of music dissemination eg say you wanted to move from Vinyl/CD to USB then you start shopping for USB supported media players. Obviously you buy what’s available within your budget but if you want to remortgage to acquire the top end gear that’s your informed decision.

    I have been to gigs and they still have fully functioning older CDJs with there resident djs using Cds and rocking the party week in week out.

    Remember turntables were once almost obsolete, if not for DVS that kept them around they would have been extinct.

    My €0.02

  • Fully Slick

    If they intended to sell it to the Hi-Fi market, why do they placed a pitch slider anyway 🙂

  • Sven Bollue

    As the author of this article is stating: “similar, cheaper offerings from Stanton, Pioneer DJ, Reloop, and others”, and using the word “similar”, he’s proving he knows nothing about the significant construction differences between an SL-1200 and a Hanpin knock off.

  • Joe

    I am very sorry but everyone who thinks that you nowadays could build a deck like that for under 1.000 is just plain stupid or ignorant! Get over it.

    • Linz&Mars

      Was it 5-6 years ago that technics were $450 brand new in the US?

      What’s happened in that 6 years a part from retooling a factory that has made it harder and at least $1,000 more expensive to build the 1200?

  • Anthony Woodruffe

    Anyone thinking $2000 for a Technics SL1200-GR is a totally unreasonable but thinks a NXS-2000 is perfectly ok needs their head checking.

    • Spacecamp

      I totally agree that CDJ are similarly overpriced, except: aside from materials and build quality, what does a SL-1200GR do that a new model of every previous SL-1200 not do?

      Until the XDJ-1000, CDJ-2000NXS’s had unique feature sets in a single unit that were unattainable at any other price level, by any other model.

      • Anthony Woodruffe

        I bought 3 XDJ-1000 and they are really over-priced for what they can do compared to other devices. However I felt I had no choice at the time because of all the software bugs in PCs, Traktor and OSX at the time.
        So really they were at the right price point for me based on my situation.

        The original SL1200GRs may fall into the same category, that for some, will be worth dropping the cash on over a set of old MkII versions?
        Although the new version has more torque and different materials. Should that make them so much more than the last models? Probably not but I’m sure Panasonic have done a fair bit of marketing and think they have a better position selling them to enthusiasts as my guess is, clubs are in no hurry to upgrade their turntables of which most at present are being used as Midi-controller placeholders and beermats.

        • Pat

          I have 2k NXS and have played on XDJ1000 and I’d agree the 1000 is overpriced for what it is. IMO its like a car that someone puts tons of paint, body work, and stickers on so it looks flashy but in reality it can still barely go 0-60 in less than 10 seconds. The build quality is what stands out along with many of the smaller/internal elements. My worry is that they’ll start to go this way more – building a great flagship product that has ALLLL the bells and whistles (Seriously 2KNXS2 is great but that price tag for the additions its crazy and even puts it out of reach for most serious working DJs.)

    • ithinkmynameismoose

      You’re an idiot. The two are nowhere near comparable.

      • Anthony Woodruffe

        Of course they are compatible. But tell us why you don’t think they are.

        • Dubby Labby

          Anyone can argue that you need a computer plus DVS to have similar features. If you are going to play just vinyl then it’s overpriced against any turntable (including old m5g) too and it doesn’t bring nothing new or better to justify the price.
          Said that I find pioneer gear overpriced too but more justified than this without doubt from the pov of specs/profitability.

          Jm2c.

      • Dubby Labby

        Insulting overrides facts. Take the same amount of time explaining and maybe world will be better place.

    • djtorchMusic

      Both are unreasonable to be honest with you.

  • AuralCandy.Net

    Well…if something positive, it’s not $4,000 like the SL-1200GAE 😀

    There are some vendors that still have new MK2s and MK5s in stock, they’re asking about $2,000-2,500.

    Remember the days when you could get a new SL-1200 MK2 or MK5 for $400-500? From today’s perspective it feel like they were giving them away for free.

    • Madden Wachsenhoff

      if you compare purchase power of the dollar from back then to today, the price point is right around 800-900 dollars =500 back then

      • AuralCandy.Net

        To be honest, I somewhat converted EUR to USD on the fly 😀

        My reference point for “back in the day” were the year before Technics stopped manufacturing the SL-1200. Was it 2011 or something like that?

        Back then SL-1200 was sold for about 450€ per unit. These days EUR and USD exchange rate is about 1:1, but back then EUR was stronger, maybe about 1.3:1 and factoring in the inflation rate, we’d probably be looking at a comparable price of roughly 600-650 USD.

    • acts_one

      At this price point for the GRs I’d rather buy MK5s or M5Gs. There really isn’t a reason to buy the new 12s other than being ‘that guy’

  • Shash'U (Fool's Gold)

    yea.. the price is high..this got me thinking, there’s still a lot of regular consumers, who almost know nothing about what they’re buying, the same type who buy triple gold platinum super extra turbo monster cables, for their home theater & other gadgets. Some do it cause the store clerk told them to, others do it cause buying electronics is a sport to them. Knowing the price will turn off even djs who enjoy music off stage as much as their interior home design,
    I wonder which group of people Technics’ marketing will be targeting for this new piece. Seems to me like they’re trying to sell a Lifestyle.

  • Noname

    I bet soon they will release a new SH-MZ1200 mixer… But wait!! This is not DJs… It’s for hi-fi listeners, those with super-ears who wants to beatmatch their classical violin records…

    • MarcusMCB

      I’d be perfectly okay with a new SH-MZ1200 on the market. Highly under-rated mixer for its time.

    • yesname

      don’t forget the Technics SL-DZ1200 . it was allso for hifi home use 😀

      • Dubby Labby

        It wasn’t and how it failed even makes more strong the point about Panasonic not trying to do turntables for djs because they were Hifi and never invested more money in r&d for djing since mk2, just adding features from other brands (vestax, numark…)

        If you look at other brands reboots like stpvx these are focusing in Hifi and big budgets. Djing is not their target anymore.

        • yesname

          since the introduction of the ipod hifi died. there is no more hifi market.
          if you want to believe fairy tale then, yes the new sl1200 is for hifi use.

          • Dubby Labby

            Well maybe the Hifi market get most niche with iPod born but which is died without doubt is Technics as dj brand. Get over it.

  • sinjintek

    Wow. You guys continue to work on inciting anger, and DJs who profess great love for the brand continue to call for a boycott in hopes of driving it’s business into the dirt for a second time… get over it you whiny ass babies. It is not Panasonic’s responsibility to placate your delicate little egos. For now, let them try to do what is best for themselves …try to refrain from insisting you know how to run the business better. Many of you probably need to stop and admit, if only for a tiny moment of actual lucidity, that you honestly have no real intention of purchasing a new turntable (let alone two). Sure, some of you may, but doubtfully enough would to successfully support the company if they actually tried to price competitively against the superOEMS that dominate today’s turntable market. We already let them down once, B&H is still sitting on unsold 1200 stock for years now. Save your gripes over deadstock prices, it’s only deadstock because nobody bought them for retail (or less) when they had the chance. Rest assured, given time and success, Panasonic will one day grace you with a shiny new “DJ specific” turntable. Quit asking them to jump the gun without first stopping to consider what they’re actually up against.

    • Madden Wachsenhoff

      I get the sentiment you’re relaying here, because I found this article inflamatory in nature as well, but you’re wrong about the pricing – if technics released new 1200s at the $699 price point they would fly off the shelves – I’d do it in a heartbeat, and a lot of DJs who have been doing this from the early days would to. I’m tired of cleaning and refurbing my 1994 mk2s. and yeah, I and everyone else should have bought them when they were in retail but everyone, and I mean EVERYONE was caught off guard when technics died. Prices literally doubled over night for what was now “deadstock” – crazy. And if B&H is sitting on a pile of deadstock still, then clearly they are overpriced or people would be buying them up. Its all about the price point

      • guest100

        $699? Sorry, but that’s the price of the incomparably inferior OEM now. And are you aware of the amount of engineering packed into a GR compared to the plastic keyboards called controllers that cost the same or more?

        • Oddie O'Phyle

          Most of these people don’t understand the cost of a redesign and the tooling necessary to get a new product out. These are probably the same people that don’t understand that things like Tsunamis have hit Japan and carried manufacturing dies off into the ocean or factor in inflation.

          • DiamondDNice

            no. they just don’t care. It’s like saying, we redesigned the Toyota Camry and now it’s price is $150k. it was the most popular family sedan. The average person would use the care the exact same way as before thus whatever was added at the cost of an extra $125k just isn’t of value to that consumer. If it’s a better engine and handmade so labor is more expensive the camry driver doesn’t care about that enough to pay the markup. They don’t care if you had to redesign it cause you lost a patent. They just want an affordable family sedan like they had before that’s save and drives their kid to school. It’s not that they don’t get that it cost to redesign. It’s that they place no value in it and what they really want is a new old designed Camry. DJ’s don’t actually care about whatever new expensive process Panasonic is using. If they went back to manufacturing old 1200 models brand new at the same price adjusted for inflation people would still buy them. They just aren’t going to pay 4 fold more let alone like 12 fold for things they don’t even care about. So people will go to other turntables and rightly so. Good luck to Panasonic in their endeavors.

        • Linz&Mars

          It was only a few years ago (before 1200’s were discontinued) that brand new 1200’s we’re around $450.

          I think it would be possible for them to make a profit a few years later selling a similar deck for $700 (even with re-tooling.)

          That said, it didn’t work out for them before and that’s why they discontinued them but… $700 is quite an increase in price/profit & I would be tempted to update my old 1200’s for $700 a piece.
          I wouldn’t even consider it for $1,000 or more. And I’m sure a lot of potential customers/dj’s feel similarly.

          So a cheaper price I believe would be very doable. It’s just not the marketing/direction they’re going in… and that’s disappointing for dj’s.

  • Madden Wachsenhoff

    I would love to see an article on a long term test of the PLX-1000 and PLX-500 – how do they hold up after two years of use? I get the drama articles DJTT posts – generates comments and views etc but I would love to see you guys get back to useful articles for DJs old and new.

    • sinjintek

      Well, it would stand to reason to consider the Stanton ST-150 and STR-150 …as they are both nearly identical to the internals of the PLX, particularly in regards to the motor. There’s another dozen or two varieties of the “superOEM” turntable, which has graced the “DJ industry” for more than a decade now. Hopefully that helps lend some insight to your questions.

      • Madden Wachsenhoff

        I prefer the design aesthetics of the PLX, but you didnt really answer my question – I’d like to see a solid long term review post on the PLXs, which you guys wrote about when they launched but never followed up on. Just a suggestion.

        • kebzer

          This is probably the best comparison made:

          • James

            wow. plx is garbage.

    • Noname

      So… PLX-1000 has the pitch held in the main board, what means that it is much more difficult to repair this piece compared to the Technics’ SL-1200 series.
      I have the PLX-500. I suspect that is a copy of the Audio Technica AT-LP120 (same specs and same Chinese factory I would say). If you tap your fingers in the plastic top base (yes, the PLX-500 has an entire plastic body) your timecode will go crazy: the needle gets all your hand’s vibration, what never happened with my old SL-1210mk2…
      Never touched the PLX-1000 (seems a more professional product for me, same category as RP-7000). I had an old pair of 90’s SL-1210mk2, they were much better constructed than these new PLX-500.
      At least now we have big brands manufacturing turntables, which means that anytime soon, I can get another PLX-500 or 1000, for a cheaper price, and I can still spin on Vinyl without worrying about spare parts and things like that.

      • Madden Wachsenhoff

        thank you. I use CDJs for timecode and am looking to replace my aging 1200s with something so I can mix my vinyl collection with the new cuts I get off beatport/etc .. have you mixed on your PLX-500s with just vinyl?

        • Noname

          Mostly with timecode (what gets crazy because of vibration, as I said before). With normal vinyl, I see less problems. But keep in my mind, if you are going to mix in a noisy environment, maybe the PLX-1000 (the “superior” model) will have the proper isolation.

        • guest100

          Just don’t make that mistake. Keep the Technics or you’ll regret it very soon.

          • Senator Wax Davis

            yeah after all this discussions and additional research I decided to just deep clean my mk2s and fix the tonearm myself, plenty of videos on how to do it out there.

          • Oddie O'Phyle

            Lots of after market parts out there. If the tone arm is garbage, you can readily find one online.

    • Sven van Bavel

      I have a pair of Reloop rp6000 super OEM’s for more than a years and they still work flawless. These decks are even more adjusted not letting any fluids in spilled at the dj booth because they are completely sealed on top.

      Technics was a standard and got big because they got a good value to consumer (consumer/professional dj) price rate and a good product, back in the time.

      The super OEM’s are proven solid and reliable.

      • Sven van Bavel

        *for more then 10 years that needed to be.

      • Oddie O'Phyle

        They became a standard, because they took a beating and stayed solid. You can’t compare a Hanpin to a Technics. A 10 year Hanpin isn’t on par with a 25 year Technics motor. Then have a close look at your wow/flutter tolerance, the Technics has a jitter 1/3 that of a top end Hanpin… .1% compared to .03%.

        • Sven van Bavel

          the real question is: does this small difference in jitter make them less reliable, will you notice that in a club or home setting. In my opinion not.
          And this is what i mean: it isn’ worth 2000$ Yes the Technics are a standard proven reliable deck. But no HiFi specialists don’t go for direct drive nor for pitch faders.
          It is a good piece of hardware that became an icon, and they refocused there brand, and they can offcourse, but then no one here should say that Technics focus on audiophiles, no they focus on the reputation of the 1200 and dropped out the consumers that made the 1200 big, realize that, don’t make up 1001 reasons why we as dj’s or club owners should still buy and support Technics as a brand.They left out on the ones who made them popular, no less no more. As a consumer as dj we are thrown into the gutter and yes, i accept, but no i will not spent my hard earned cash on a Technics deck.

          There are other brands trying to ben innovative focused on DJ’s as Reloop with the RP-8000 who deserve now our support. Becouse they dare to be creative to try to attract and to openly say: Yes we understand why you choose for vinyl decks and we have your back in this and believe in the format.

          Honestly Technics don’t desere the fuzz, they’ll see what happens. And from the moment they realize that there is a market they come back with hanging legs trying to deny what they said that dj’s are not interesting as a consumer market. Watch my words 😉

          And that’s wy we now should support other brands that do still want to be creative in turntables and innovations in them.

          • Oddie O'Phyle

            Technics started off as a HiFi audio company and have been producing direct drive turntables for HiFi use since 1969. Pitch adjustment was introduced to compensated for the lessened drag as the needle works its way to the center of the platter.. less weight from the drag means that your platter turns faster. It’s the reason for the “dots” on side of the platter. The 1200 was produced for this market, not intentionally for the DJ market as there wasn’t one at the time.

            You say that you’ve run RP 6000 for over a year, no issues. Talk to me in another 10 years. At the radio station, the Technics are a year older than I am and they are still running strong… I’m 41.

          • Oddie O'Phyle

            BTW wow/flutter has nothing to do with reliability. It is the percentile tolerance that the platter goes off due to the elliptical push of the motor as the polarity of the electromagnets switch in order to push the platter forward. This does make a difference in any setting unless you use sync. I’d rather deal with a .03% variation from the elliptical push than a .1%.

          • DiamondDNice

            and is it $1300-$3300 better for a dj? I’d say no. I mean i picked up my first turntables in 91 and honestly the only time i’ve ever heard a dj mention wow and flutter is on these forums. And if they were $1300-$3300 more useful for the dj you’d think all the best legendary djs would be buying them and upgrading but I don’t see that happening.

    • Spacecamp

      Hey Madden,
      Thanks for your feedback – I hear you on your request for more practical articles and will make that a goal for 2017. Could you share a bit more about what you mean in terms of mapping jog wheels “CDJ style” to Traktor? As in, emulate CDJ’s HID control with Traktor? Or something else entirely?

      In regards to coming off as “inflammatory” or “drama” – if anything, I missed the first boat of press on publishing this – a number of others had already published articles on this by the time I was finishing this piece up. The “it’s still $2,000” part of the title and article is informed by the reaction I saw from hundreds of DJs around the web. No one seems happy by this price, or like they’re being respected. Couple this with the New York Times article earlier this week and it’s a real one-two punch to DJs who have supported the brand mercilessly over the years.

      • Dubby Labby

        Mmmmm I think there were lots of djs who had commented on and on about “don’t be hyped yourselves with the idea of Technics return”… it isn’t real one-two puch, it’s like tom&jerry cartoon and rake sketch.

      • Senator Wax Davis

        Thanks Spacecamp –

        To be clear, I’ve had a devil of a time trying to jogwheels to function exactly like vinyl – ie the track is playing, you grab the track with the jogwheel on top and it stops, you scratch the beat with it, let go of the jogwheel and off the track goes. You can spin it forward or backwards. I’ve downloaded countless traktor mappings trying to decypher it but most if not all of them lack the notation (ie notes) on what a particular mapping does – theres questions about how to do this all over the net but not a step by step tutorial. Here is an example video to show what I’m talking about: https://youtu.be/uwzJyyoh-jM?t=15s

    • TBM

      I believe that The PLX 500 is being marketed for home use and ripping vinyl so take them out of the equation.

      I’ve had my Stanton ST150 for 6 years, I gig with them at least 2 nights a week, some times more.

      They are in a flight case for transport and I bring them out of the cases when I want to use them. I like using the cases to raise them high.

      Everything works, no issues.

      I bought them in the US with 110v power, the first 4 years I had them I was using a step down transformer as I’m in Europe now. Early last year or 2015 I contacted Gibson UK for 220v transformers and they supplied me. Both cost 25gbp with posting.

      I opened the decks up and swapped out the 110 for 220.

      Simple enough procedure. I did this so I don’t have to carry the step down when I go to gig.

      Enough said. They are rock solid, There are parts if you need to fix or mod stuff.

      I love them to bits. I have a Technics MK5 too but they never leave the home.

      I have a Funk residency and it’s the Stantons I use.

      That’s a real overview by a working dj.

      Some folks question the engineering saying it won’t be easy to fix etc have they ever considered calling up Stanton to get a quote on price. Hell the whole PCB board might cost less than 50 bucks, so why would you be worried about the fact that the pitch is on the main board. Just change the whole thing if that happens.

  • DJ LoSo

    Once again the average DJ gets shafted by Panasonic!! I’ll keep my 20 year old technics and wait until they get cheaper.

    My biggest question… Why even have pitch controls on this TT if it’s for Hi-Fi listening?

    • Madden Wachsenhoff

      1. pitch matching for people playing along with instruments (ie violin, oboe, piano)
      2. old records pressed back in the day might require you to slow them down because they were pressed to fast etc

    • sinjintek

      Good question, maybe you could refer it to the engineers behind the original SL-1200 and the various models preceding it which also featured pitch controls.

    • guest100

      Pitch control was invented and implemented before djs, for other purposes, they just utilized it for mixing.

      • DJ Leo Gee Gee

        I learnt something new today ?

    • Oddie O'Phyle

      As the record needle travels to the inside of the record there is less drag on the vinyl, causing it to speed up. The “dots” on the side are a percentage gauge allowing you to compensate for the lessened drag allowing you to bring the track back to 0 set.