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    hey guys,
    i have traktor 1.2 and i'm trying to do something (seemingly) simple with command mapping but its not working. i've tried to search but had no luck

    what i'm trying to do is map the same command twice or more to the same key but i only comes out once.

    problem: i map 'cue/loop move' -> 'forward' to the keyboard key '3', and duplicate it twice so i have 3 instances, all mapped to the key '3' - the idea here is that i press the 3 key and it moves 3 beats forward. however, it only does 1 repetition of the command even though its there 3 times for the same key. if i click the > arrow 3 times with my mouse it works exactly as expected, moving forward 3 times, so it doesnt make sense why mapping the forward command 3 times wouldnt do the same thing.

    trying to do it in two 'forward' commands, by also mapping a cue/loop size adjustment in between the two keys results in only the last 'cue/loop move' command being performed.

    it seems as though, if its a deliberate feature, it ignores all duplicates for the same function except the last one in the mapping list.

    i can get it to jump 3 beats by mixing beatjump and cue/loop move commands, ie beatjump +2 then cue/loop move -> forward - and this works fine for a normally playing song but not with a loop... and the whole reason im doing this is to move an active loop so thats no use to me.

    can someone please respond whether i'm just missing something simple to get such functionality to work or confirm that this is just a limitation of traktor's mapping system?

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    so it doesnt make sense why mapping the forward command 3 times wouldnt do the same thing.
    Well it's not exactly a limitation, don't blame the' software, it's how you interpret mapping that isn't making real sense. Your logic here is twisted. Those three duplicates in this case you're using, don't cumulate if you want, they all happen at the same time from point 1 to point 2: you're telling three times Traktor to move from point 1 to point 2; not 1 to 2, from 2 to 3, from 3 to 4 in a row.
    There are cases when duplicating a function would have worked, not here.
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    You need to set the command to direct and the value to 3 beats (if that's possible, i'm not sure).

    If not, then I suppose you could call it a limitation but it's not one that's going to affect many people.

    And why not just click it 3 times if you really need to move 3 beats? I don't think I ever have.
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    You need to set the command to direct and the value to 3 beats (if that's possible, i'm not sure).
    nope you can't the value doesn't exist.

    If not, then I suppose you could call it a limitation but it's not one that's going to affect many people.

    And why not just click it 3 times if you really need to move 3 beats? I don't think I ever have.
    Samewise for me. But, well if that's something you feel you need to have, I'm no one to argue about that.

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    Does invert work in keyboards? Set move 2 and map a move 1 with invert checked.
    Press > moves 2, release > moves additional 1

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    Yes I have some stuff mapped like that.
    Hey! I think Bradcee just gave you a potential solution!! You'll have also to change the size as he described and add once again the move itself on release. It may work actually. Tell us about your results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yul View Post
    . It WILL work actually. Tell us about your results.
    Fixed - assuming that invert works on keyboard

    Have a similar thing for setting 5 beat loops... Why? That would be telling...

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    because you're mental?
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    invert works on keyboard, it is a option available on some functions. Or am I mistaken (well, that wouldn't be the 1st time)?
    Thanks for correcting my sentences Bradcee. I really need to work on my english grammar ^^

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    thanks for the ideas everyone - will update on my results once i've had a play around

    hopefully 2 cue/loop move commands on a single keypress will solve the problem.

    btw my use for this is not just laziness - as you might imagine if i have the keyboard button 3 mapped for 3 beats then 1-8 would be doing something similar so i could rapidly reposition a loop... no way i could do what im imagining with clicks of the mouse and/or manually adjusting jump distances on the fly.

    i tested the core logic of the looper-thing i'm trying to create working with beatjumps, but beatjumps dont bring a loop with them, which made it useless for what i ultimately wanted to do. hopefully now that i've solved the issue of doing the the 3, 5, 6 and 7 beat jumps in 1 keypress, it should all fall together


    @yul, i would understand what you're saying about point 1 to 2 three times if i was specifying which beat to move to, but i would have thought a command to move forward 1 beat (without specifying which beat is the ultimate target) would dynamically change the target beat as it is executed multiple times... are you trying to say that because all 3 are executed at the same time, the target beat doesn't have an opportunity to update/change with each execution?

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