In the past few weeks, we’ve seen evidence that Serato and Traktor are about to have some serious competition on their hands in the coming months. We’ve seen this happen in the past, namely with Deckadance and Torq making major inroads with new feature sets that the Big Two lack, but neither of those have gained enough traction to be taken seriously.
Virtual DJ
Atomix’s Virtual DJ has been a player for quite some time – but despite it’s ability to perform and a strong set of features (skinable interface, on-the-fly key detection, overlapping waveforms, support for multiple soundcards, unlimited decks, a strong VJ interface, a comprehensive scripting language and VST support on Windows), it’s still widely and unfairly considered by many DJs and industry folks to be a bit of a joke.
That being said, Atomix is setting the stage for yet another attempt to being taken very seriously in the market by buying out adionSoft, the group behind another small-time DJ application, djDecks. djDecks is very similar in terms of features and appearance to VirtualDJ, and on the surface it would seem like a merging of these two softwares would be about as interesting as mixing mineral water with tap water. But Atomix announced that the engineers have been working together to merge the codebases of the two products from the ground up, giving them a chance to create a product that addresses the key complaints of both (stability and audio quality are the more common complaints that we’ve heard and read about) and potentially a stronger feature set than any other DJing software on the market. Virtual DJ 8 will arrive within a few months (odds are good we’ll see it at NAMM?), but according to Atomix, it won’t be officially released until “testers aren’t able to find any single bug left.”
Buying another company who is doing what you’re doing can be a great path to software success – if you doubt that, look at how Apple’s purchase of NeXT Software paved the way towards the massive success of OS X by using technologies that NeXT had been developing for years.
Our one major suggestion for Atomix is that in this process of rebuilding Virtual DJ, hire a great interface designer to make the default skins for the product. Skins are great- but an intelligent, great-looking interface that is there from the first time it boots could make this new version something that users rave about.
The One
Just one day after Atomix dropped their big news, the team behind “The One” DJ software sent out a message to everyone who signed up for their beta announcing that their product will be divided into a “Core” edition and a “Premium” edition, the former being launched in the next few months, and the latter following later in 2012.
On their Facebook Page, they’ve started to reveal some more specifics of the Core edition, and it continues to look like an incredibly robust and innovative product. Besides the features that we saw in their promo video last month, like on-the-fly resizing of the interface and completely customizable modular interface, they’ve announced on-the-fly sequencer-like editing within the player deck.
The other promising thing that we’re seeing on their Facebook Page is a high level of interaction and communication with their fans, which is a great sign for anyone who has ever asked for anything (feature request, support tickets) from Serato and Native Instruments. Hopefully, if The One takes off, it will not lose this sentiment – we’re firm believers that strong user communities are the best resource and greatest asset for any product.
The Rumble
Serious competition for the Big Two might just be what the DJ software industry needs – a kick in the pants to keep developing products and finding new solutions. We don’t expect any major coups, but as these minor players draw attention and eventually users, we’re excited to see how it all plays out.
What do you expect/desire from this “next wave” of DJ softwares? Do VDJ8 or The One stand a chance against the industry heavyweights? Let us know in the comments below.
Further reading: Read our Traktor vs. Serato vs. Ableton vs. VDJ article that we wrote earlier this year.
So what happened to this thread. . . . hahahahaha VDj
Not a huge fan of VDJ when it comes to LE, I got a mixtrack pro and it was like my very first dj setup I ever had. It obviously came with VDJ LE. When I opened up the software for the first time it looked very unexpected. It was mainly just a picture of a close-but-not-quite layout of the Mictrack Pro. Very cheesy looking, and not many FX to choose from. And there was no point of having a filter in the layout because there is no filter knob on the mixtrack pro.
By next year, somebody wants me to dj for this little get together party, I wanted to do more than just sit there and look pretty playing with one fx knob.
So yeah, I would rather just buy Traktor pro than spend almost 100 buck on VDJ
I’ve only been doing this for 3 years, I have played on CDJ’s but more for the hell of it, I’ve always been digital and see nothing wrong with it.
But I do agree that so many people look down on VDJ, and its really upsetting since it really is a great program. I’ve been using it solidly for the last three years with 4 gigs a week at two residencies, and even though I started with a Kam Digi Mini (for 4 months) than Got a Numark Omni Control and even having very little Experience I was able to map it with VDJ very easily.
I have tried traktor and really didn’t enjoy it, i feel like its clingying to hard on trying to stick with the “vinyl/CDJ” Layout.
I’ve recently got a Twitch and moved over to Serato, Its a great program but there are lots of features that I am missing. just holding out for VDJ8 or Serato DJ and see which suits my needs the best.
Honestly, I have not looked at “The One” software but will state that VDJ has pioneered and reshaped the DJ industry by allowing its users impact guide and develop the feature sets they want and demand. Therefore, although they have received some unjust mockery from Traktor and Serato fanatics their business model has proven to be far more than Golden. Software developers are starting to wake up and realize that although at one point in time they may have been considered to be the industry standard, they are being replaced by the game changers who continue to pave the path meeting the demands of the professionals and creative talents found within a ever evolving industry.
Honestly, I have not looked at “The One” software but will state that VDJ has pioneered and reshaped the DJ industry by allowing its users impact guide and develop the feature sets they want and demand. Therefore, although they have received some unjust mockery from Traktor and Serato fanatics their business model has proven to be far more than Golden. Software developers are starting to wake up and realize that although at one point in time they may have been considered to be the industry standard, they are being replaced by the game changers who continue to pave the path meeting the demands of the professionals and creative talents found within a ever evolving industry.
I downloaded VDJ once and I didnt like it I felt like I was using a kids toy I started with serato and i’ll stick with sera to it what feels most comfortable for you.
Let me start by saying,I am Bias to ALL the DJ software on the market today.With that said.When the heck are you all going to realize that DJ software more then A TOOL.That is it.Just like A Mixer or a Turntable is A Tool for the DJ.After reading all this,It reminds me of School days.My Dad can beat up your Dad.Who really cares.Nobodies Dad is going to beat up someone else’s Dad just because he/she thinks it is so.get over it.Lets ALL try and get along.We are all on this earth for a short time,So why not make the best of it.Life is to short to piss about which software is better.I for one do not care.But I do find all this very amusing to read.
Kama,What Come Around,Goes Around.And remember,Don’t Spit in the well,Someday,you may have to drink from that well.
While I don’t use it as much, I find that one more player should be included here: Torq 2.0 from Avid. There is little doubt that Avid (through Digidesign) makes high quality audio software (Pro Tools), yet there seems to be surprisingly little information on DJ/Controllerist Enthusiast Blogs. It has all the features you would expect a professional DJ software package to have (including an 18-cell, tempo-synced sampler) but it also includes it’s Audio Production Centerpiece (which, I guess is something like Pro Tools lite) which puts this software squarely on-par with the Serato/Ableton Bridge combination (for less money) and a thing they call Traq Morph which does some pretty interesting things with the cross fader.
Torq 2.0 doesn’t require any specific hardware to use (unlike Itch), has OK system requirements (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz with 2 Gig of Ram), it has the side-by-side audio waveform tracks (for all 4 decks, similar to what Serato enthusiasts enjoy) and it has the ability to use VSTs (unlike Traktor).Maybe Torq 2.0 is an “also ran”, but it seems a rather capable competitor to the Bridge and it doesn’t seem to get as much love as other programs, which is somewhat sad because it looks very powerful.
Lol. These comments about the name of the software are irrelevant. I also know and agree that with VDJ it’s all about the magician behind the machine. If you are creative enough you can make it work well for you. I personally think it’s definitely an underdog compared to “industry standard”.
I am a DJ who plays videos about 80% of the time, so for me comparing VDJ to “the heavyweights” is comparing apples to oranges, as VDJ does what the heavyweights do not: it plays videos, and it does it really well. I use a pair of Numark V7s and an outboard mixer to build video mashups on the fly with key changing, needle drops, backspins, stutter edits, chops, loops and FX all provided by VDJ, and I’ll tell you what: no one has ever come up to me and said “oh, you’re using Virtual DJ? What a joke.”
That said, though: their customer support is pretty sad. If you need help with an “unusual” problem, you might as well go ask your grandma. 🙁
Mike Dailor
http://MikeDailor.com
I am a DJ who plays videos about 80% of the time, so for me comparing VDJ to “the heavyweights” is comparing apples to oranges, as VDJ does what the heavyweights do not: it plays videos, and it does it really well. I use a pair of Numark V7s and an outboard mixer to build video mashups on the fly with key changing, needle drops, backspins, stutter edits, chops, loops and FX all provided by VDJ, and I’ll tell you what: no one has ever come up to me and said “oh, you’re using Virtual DJ? What a joke.”
That said, though: their customer support is pretty sad. If you need help with an “unusual” problem, you might as well go ask your grandma. 🙁
Mike Dailor
http://MikeDailor.com
I am a DJ who plays videos about 80% of the time, so for me comparing VDJ to “the heavyweights” is comparing apples to oranges, as VDJ does what the heavyweights do not: it plays videos, and it does it really well. I use a pair of Numark V7s and an outboard mixer to build video mashups on the fly with key changing, needle drops, backspins, stutter edits, chops, loops and FX all provided by VDJ, and I’ll tell you what: no one has ever come up to me and said “oh, you’re using Virtual DJ? What a joke.”
That said, though: their customer support is pretty sad. If you need help with an “unusual” problem, you might as well go ask your grandma. 🙁
Mike Dailor
http://MikeDailor.com
I am a DJ who plays videos about 80% of the time, so for me comparing VDJ to “the heavyweights” is comparing apples to oranges, as VDJ does what the heavyweights do not: it plays videos, and it does it really well. I use a pair of Numark V7s and an outboard mixer to build video mashups on the fly with key changing, needle drops, backspins, stutter edits, chops, loops and FX all provided by VDJ, and I’ll tell you what: no one has ever come up to me and said “oh, you’re using Virtual DJ? What a joke.”
That said, though: their customer support is pretty sad. If you need help with an “unusual” problem, you might as well go ask your grandma. 🙁
Mike Dailor
http://MikeDailor.com
The question here is ……does it sound good and is the product stable?
I don’t give a rats ass about a particular product winning awards, I’m a professional DJ/Producer thats plays and supports underground electronic music only and does not subscribe to marketing.
Endorsements by famous djs don’t cut it with me as I don’t rate the music they play.
My genre is underground electronic music, quality underground indie labels, its Art with me… you know that old fashoned thing not product…………
The technology can win all the awards intill the cows come home, but if it sounds bloomin nasty and crashes more than the euro stock exchange then it is not good to use in front of a very hungry crowd. (my guests come to Berlin to hear this type of music from all around the world)
Its so easy for people to read into all this B.S about awards from the saftey of their computer screens. Yeah lets all Troll and quote hype.
I’m eager to try out this product for myself, I started using Trakor way back not cus of what that twat Richie Hawtin said it was good… back then I doubt N.I had him on their pay roll. Funny thing is that Native Instruments and Ableton Live are developed just down the road from me.
When I’m in the various DJ booths scattered around Berlin… setting up my equipment its quite surprising to see what my fellow producer,DJs and live acts are using on their systems.
Most software… soundcards etc are at least a year or so old or more as they have found a stable version that they want to stick with and this is what counts in the real world of music, not the bells and whistles of the latest incarnation.
Take the S4 for example…… Nobody uses it! Nobody at all.. and its forking developed right down the road. ?????
Too big for underground clubs booths and very expensive. I use several dinky Faderfoxes, solid … hand made and even then its tuff to find a spot to place them in the booth, far from the ideal placement that exsists in my studio. lol 🙂
My DJ sets are long, well over 3 hours or more. This Thursday I play at 5am and finish about 8am I will be quite battered and the thing I need to do is enjoy playing music for my paying guests and not worry about a hidious system crash or if the software is a major player and has won awards and dubfire has sex with it.
I joined this forum, its the only one I have ever bothered to use as I’m a now a digital DJ/Producer playing our Art and I’m not blind to innovation I would welcome alternative products.
Before that did I join copious amounts of 1210 forums spending hours on end saying that is is good, erm no.
I welcome better products, I’m not paid to say it is good. So far I have found that Traktor is the most stable and best sounding in the environments I work in.
So I’ll have a bash at using VDJ and lets hope it can be a tool that can help me do my job. 🙂
Lets get back to making … playing music and not all turn into Trolls that are full of media hype. Come to Berlin … and impress the tuff crowds that expect the very best in style, skill and love for the music.
The question here is ……does it sound good and is the product stable?
I don’t give a rats ass about a particular product winning awards, I’m a professional DJ/Producer thats plays and supports underground electronic music only and does not subscribe to marketing.
Endorsements by famous djs don’t cut it with me as I don’t rate the music they play.
My genre is underground electronic music, quality underground indie labels, its Art with me… you know that old fashoned thing not product…………
The technology can win all the awards intill the cows come home, but if it sounds bloomin nasty and crashes more than the euro stock exchange then it is not good to use in front of a very hungry crowd. (my guests come to Berlin to hear this type of music from all around the world)
Its so easy for people to read into all this B.S about awards from the saftey of their computer screens. Yeah lets all Troll and quote hype.
I’m eager to try out this product for myself, I started using Trakor way back not cus of what that twat Richie Hawtin said it was good… back then I doubt N.I had him on their pay roll. Funny thing is that Native Instruments and Ableton Live are developed just down the road from me.
When I’m in the various DJ booths scattered around Berlin… setting up my equipment its quite surprising to see what my fellow producer,DJs and live acts are using on their systems.
Most software… soundcards etc are at least a year or so old or more as they have found a stable version that they want to stick with and this is what counts in the real world of music, not the bells and whistles of the latest incarnation.
Take the S4 for example…… Nobody uses it! Nobody at all.. and its forking developed right down the road. ?????
Too big for underground clubs booths and very expensive. I use several dinky Faderfoxes, solid … hand made and even then its tuff to find a spot to place them in the booth, far from the ideal placement that exsists in my studio. lol 🙂
My DJ sets are long, well over 3 hours or more. This Thursday I play at 5am and finish about 8am I will be quite battered and the thing I need to do is enjoy playing music for my paying guests and not worry about a hidious system crash or if the software is a major player and has won awards and dubfire has sex with it.
I joined this forum, its the only one I have ever bothered to use as I’m a now a digital DJ/Producer playing our Art and I’m not blind to innovation I would welcome alternative products.
Before that did I join copious amounts of 1210 forums spending hours on end saying that is is good, erm no.
I welcome better products, I’m not paid to say it is good. So far I have found that Traktor is the most stable and best sounding in the environments I work in.
So I’ll have a bash at using VDJ and lets hope it can be a tool that can help me do my job. 🙂
Lets get back to making … playing music and not all turn into Trolls that are full of media hype. Come to Berlin … and impress the tuff crowds that expect the very best in style, skill and love for the music.
The question here is ……does it sound good and is the product stable?
I don’t give a rats ass about a particular product winning awards, I’m a professional DJ/Producer thats plays and supports underground electronic music only and does not subscribe to marketing.
Endorsements by famous djs don’t cut it with me as I don’t rate the music they play.
My genre is underground electronic music, quality underground indie labels, its Art with me… you know that old fashoned thing not product…………
The technology can win all the awards intill the cows come home, but if it sounds bloomin nasty and crashes more than the euro stock exchange then it is not good to use in front of a very hungry crowd. (my guests come to Berlin to hear this type of music from all around the world)
Its so easy for people to read into all this B.S about awards from the saftey of their computer screens. Yeah lets all Troll and quote hype.
I’m eager to try out this product for myself, I started using Trakor way back not cus of what that twat Richie Hawtin said it was good… back then I doubt N.I had him on their pay roll. Funny thing is that Native Instruments and Ableton Live are developed just down the road from me.
When I’m in the various DJ booths scattered around Berlin… setting up my equipment its quite surprising to see what my fellow producer,DJs and live acts are using on their systems.
Most software… soundcards etc are at least a year or so old or more as they have found a stable version that they want to stick with and this is what counts in the real world of music, not the bells and whistles of the latest incarnation.
Take the S4 for example…… Nobody uses it! Nobody at all.. and its forking developed right down the road. ?????
Too big for underground clubs booths and very expensive. I use several dinky Faderfoxes, solid … hand made and even then its tuff to find a spot to place them in the booth, far from the ideal placement that exsists in my studio. lol 🙂
My DJ sets are long, well over 3 hours or more. This Thursday I play at 5am and finish about 8am I will be quite battered and the thing I need to do is enjoy playing music for my paying guests and not worry about a hidious system crash or if the software is a major player and has won awards and dubfire has sex with it.
I joined this forum, its the only one I have ever bothered to use as I’m a now a digital DJ/Producer playing our Art and I’m not blind to innovation I would welcome alternative products.
Before that did I join copious amounts of 1210 forums spending hours on end saying that is is good, erm no.
I welcome better products, I’m not paid to say it is good. So far I have found that Traktor is the most stable and best sounding in the environments I work in.
So I’ll have a bash at using VDJ and lets hope it can be a tool that can help me do my job. 🙂
Lets get back to making … playing music and not all turn into Trolls that are full of media hype. Come to Berlin … and impress the tuff crowds that expect the very best in style, skill and love for the music.
The question here is ……does it sound good and is the product stable?
I don’t give a rats ass about a particular product winning awards, I’m a professional DJ/Producer thats plays and supports underground electronic music only and does not subscribe to marketing.
Endorsements by famous djs don’t cut it with me as I don’t rate the music they play.
My genre is underground electronic music, quality underground indie labels, its Art with me… you know that old fashoned thing not product…………
The technology can win all the awards intill the cows come home, but if it sounds bloomin nasty and crashes more than the euro stock exchange then it is not good to use in front of a very hungry crowd. (my guests come to Berlin to hear this type of music from all around the world)
Its so easy for people to read into all this B.S about awards from the saftey of their computer screens. Yeah lets all Troll and quote hype.
I’m eager to try out this product for myself, I started using Trakor way back not cus of what that twat Richie Hawtin said it was good… back then I doubt N.I had him on their pay roll. Funny thing is that Native Instruments and Ableton Live are developed just down the road from me.
When I’m in the various DJ booths scattered around Berlin… setting up my equipment its quite surprising to see what my fellow producer,DJs and live acts are using on their systems.
Most software… soundcards etc are at least a year or so old or more as they have found a stable version that they want to stick with and this is what counts in the real world of music, not the bells and whistles of the latest incarnation.
Take the S4 for example…… Nobody uses it! Nobody at all.. and its forking developed right down the road. ?????
Too big for underground clubs booths and very expensive. I use several dinky Faderfoxes, solid … hand made and even then its tuff to find a spot to place them in the booth, far from the ideal placement that exsists in my studio. lol 🙂
My DJ sets are long, well over 3 hours or more. This Thursday I play at 5am and finish about 8am I will be quite battered and the thing I need to do is enjoy playing music for my paying guests and not worry about a hidious system crash or if the software is a major player and has won awards and dubfire has sex with it.
I joined this forum, its the only one I have ever bothered to use as I’m a now a digital DJ/Producer playing our Art and I’m not blind to innovation I would welcome alternative products.
Before that did I join copious amounts of 1210 forums spending hours on end saying that is is good, erm no.
I welcome better products, I’m not paid to say it is good. So far I have found that Traktor is the most stable and best sounding in the environments I work in.
So I’ll have a bash at using VDJ and lets hope it can be a tool that can help me do my job. 🙂
Lets get back to making … playing music and not all turn into Trolls that are full of media hype. Come to Berlin … and impress the tuff crowds that expect the very best in style, skill and love for the music.
The question here is ……does it sound good and is the product stable?
I don’t give a rats ass about a particular product winning awards, I’m a professional DJ/Producer thats plays and supports underground electronic music only and does not subscribe to marketing.
Endorsements by famous djs don’t cut it with me as I don’t rate the music they play.
My genre is underground electronic music, quality underground indie labels, its Art with me… you know that old fashoned thing not product…………
The technology can win all the awards intill the cows come home, but if it sounds bloomin nasty and crashes more than the euro stock exchange then it is not good to use in front of a very hungry crowd. (my guests come to Berlin to hear this type of music from all around the world)
Its so easy for people to read into all this B.S about awards from the saftey of their computer screens. Yeah lets all Troll and quote hype.
I’m eager to try out this product for myself, I started using Trakor way back not cus of what that twat Richie Hawtin said it was good… back then I doubt N.I had him on their pay roll. Funny thing is that Native Instruments and Ableton Live are developed just down the road from me.
When I’m in the various DJ booths scattered around Berlin… setting up my equipment its quite surprising to see what my fellow producer,DJs and live acts are using on their systems.
Most software… soundcards etc are at least a year or so old or more as they have found a stable version that they want to stick with and this is what counts in the real world of music, not the bells and whistles of the latest incarnation.
Take the S4 for example…… Nobody uses it! Nobody at all.. and its forking developed right down the road. ?????
Too big for underground clubs booths and very expensive. I use several dinky Faderfoxes, solid … hand made and even then its tuff to find a spot to place them in the booth, far from the ideal placement that exsists in my studio. lol 🙂
My DJ sets are long, well over 3 hours or more. This Thursday I play at 5am and finish about 8am I will be quite battered and the thing I need to do is enjoy playing music for my paying guests and not worry about a hidious system crash or if the software is a major player and has won awards and dubfire has sex with it.
I joined this forum, its the only one I have ever bothered to use as I’m a now a digital DJ/Producer playing our Art and I’m not blind to innovation I would welcome alternative products.
Before that did I join copious amounts of 1210 forums spending hours on end saying that is is good, erm no.
I welcome better products, I’m not paid to say it is good. So far I have found that Traktor is the most stable and best sounding in the environments I work in.
So I’ll have a bash at using VDJ and lets hope it can be a tool that can help me do my job. 🙂
Lets get back to making … playing music and not all turn into Trolls that are full of media hype. Come to Berlin … and impress the tuff crowds that expect the very best in style, skill and love for the music.
The question here is ……does it sound good and is the product stable?
I don’t give a rats ass about a particular product winning awards, I’m a professional DJ/Producer thats plays and supports underground electronic music only and does not subscribe to marketing.
Endorsements by famous djs don’t cut it with me as I don’t rate the music they play.
My genre is underground electronic music, quality underground indie labels, its Art with me… you know that old fashoned thing not product…………
The technology can win all the awards intill the cows come home, but if it sounds bloomin nasty and crashes more than the euro stock exchange then it is not good to use in front of a very hungry crowd. (my guests come to Berlin to hear this type of music from all around the world)
Its so easy for people to read into all this B.S about awards from the saftey of their computer screens. Yeah lets all Troll and quote hype.
I’m eager to try out this product for myself, I started using Trakor way back not cus of what that twat Richie Hawtin said it was good… back then I doubt N.I had him on their pay roll. Funny thing is that Native Instruments and Ableton Live are developed just down the road from me.
When I’m in the various DJ booths scattered around Berlin… setting up my equipment its quite surprising to see what my fellow producer,DJs and live acts are using on their systems.
Most software… soundcards etc are at least a year or so old or more as they have found a stable version that they want to stick with and this is what counts in the real world of music, not the bells and whistles of the latest incarnation.
Take the S4 for example…… Nobody uses it! Nobody at all.. and its forking developed right down the road. ?????
Too big for underground clubs booths and very expensive. I use several dinky Faderfoxes, solid … hand made and even then its tuff to find a spot to place them in the booth, far from the ideal placement that exsists in my studio. lol 🙂
My DJ sets are long, well over 3 hours or more. This Thursday I play at 5am and finish about 8am I will be quite battered and the thing I need to do is enjoy playing music for my paying guests and not worry about a hidious system crash or if the software is a major player and has won awards and dubfire has sex with it.
I joined this forum, its the only one I have ever bothered to use as I’m a now a digital DJ/Producer playing our Art and I’m not blind to innovation I would welcome alternative products.
Before that did I join copious amounts of 1210 forums spending hours on end saying that is is good, erm no.
I welcome better products, I’m not paid to say it is good. So far I have found that Traktor is the most stable and best sounding in the environments I work in.
So I’ll have a bash at using VDJ and lets hope it can be a tool that can help me do my job. 🙂
Lets get back to making … playing music and not all turn into Trolls that are full of media hype. Come to Berlin … and impress the tuff crowds that expect the very best in style, skill and love for the music.
From my understanding VDJ has already won in the past best software at WMC to other competitions being voted by top world class Djs from Hip hop to EDM….. That’s not serious/major player? lol
Who cares so long as the following is taken into consideration.
The sound engine is good… full and well rounded. Its stable and don’t crash oh also the interface is not cluttered and looks over complicated to read the info for us in a dark dj booths.. lighting is not allways the best in clubs.
I have used Trakor since 2004, I had to make the digital switch when the small record labels I was signed to did not produce vinyl anymore also the sound was very underground. It was too expensive for us to produce in small runs.
Before that it was vinyl or dubplate only, I used to play this out… 1988 till 2004 the lovely stuff it is.
There is a LOT of snobbery with djing anyway, in the vinyl and dubplate days it was what record box, headphones, slipmats you used to bring to the booth oh also what cartidges you used to exchange on the 1210s when the other dj was winding down their slot.
I play out a lot.. I live in Berlin now and the vinyl vs digital snobbery is allmost gone as its all about the music. (most use digital anyway as we are seasoned producers… playing the fresh sounds from our labels, studios and fellow producers etc)
I played the Tresor a year a go and nobody gave a rats bottom what I was using as most of the 700 plus crowd was largin it at 7 am to my punishing minimal techno set.
I read the article in question as I would welcome a much better professional digital DJ product.
Native instruments have got a bit slack the past year or so… they need to focus on making their software much more stable. It does sound fantastic .. but stable it is not. Trakor Pro 2 V 2.0.3 has a 4 second lag when you load a new track, my heart stops everytime this happens. And later versions like 2.2.1 send my 8 gig ram i5 cpu off the charts with spikes. The most stable version I have ever used was 1.1.1. It never crashed and sounded good, it had a clean interface and worked well.
I will try out VDJ so long as it sounds as good as Traktor and can support 24 bit files that get sent to me.
So words from a Pro, It must sound good and not forkin crash. The crowd dont give a monkeys so long as your tracks are good… its not about the technology trust me.
Lets get back to the music. Digital djing is perhaps not for everyone, but a seasoned producer/dj to play their latest creation or tracks from their fellow stablemates its profound. Cutting 40 dubplates is no go for a three hour set so I can kick it analog…
what makes me laugh after reading all these articles is that majority of you think vdj is a joke in what it is trying to achieve who can blame them for trying to have a stab at bettering there software or products i started out with vdj and progressed to traktor because i wanted to learn more of digital djing and controlerism
but everyone still slates it
Q. how many of you actually started with vdj
A. i’d bet its the majority that slate it
DJDecks is a great software and I hope this merge with Virtual DJ can give it the boost it needs. Adion from DJDecks is an awesome programmer and has ALWAYS listened to the users needs with DJDecks. For me the quality of the program itself it right up there with Traktor and SSL. The Gui isn’t so great but the software itself is extremely stable and it’s DVS functionality is excellent. It’s a great thing to be able to use just about any soundcard with inputs.
I have a feeling that The One is actually Traktor Pro 3…………
‘ it’s still widely and unfairly considered by many DJs and industry folks to be a bit of a joke.’ you know what else is considered a joke by real djs? midi controllers LOL mash di auto-sync mon
‘ it’s still widely and unfairly considered by many DJs and industry folks to be a bit of a joke.’ you know what else is considered a joke by real djs? midi controllers LOL mash di auto-sync mon
‘ it’s still widely and unfairly considered by many DJs and industry folks to be a bit of a joke.’ you know what else is considered a joke by real djs? midi controllers LOL mash di auto-sync mon
‘ it’s still widely and unfairly considered by many DJs and industry folks to be a bit of a joke.’ you know what else is considered a joke by real djs? midi controllers LOL mash di auto-sync mon
Still in love with Torq.
Still in love with Torq.
Yeah, I’m a bit of a Torq fanboy myself 😛 ahhaha
The name/brand issue is silly. Id say 90% of DJ programs have silly names but its seemingly only an issue with VDJ.
Deckdance, The One, PCDJ, Scratch Live (not Serato), MixMeister, Ultramixer, MixVibes and even Traktor (aka John Deere) all sound pretty damn silly and childish. The only ones that sound halfway decent and cool are Torq and Ableton (which is a DAW).
In reality its an issue of ingrained perceptions where some have come to see it as the fake kiddie software used by wannabes with cracked versions.
The only remotely viable argument that i have heard is about the sound engine vis-a-vis Traktor. Instead of bitching and bias id like to see a comparison with specific benchmarks to settle the issue.
Traktors effects are unmatched and there are also a few advanced features that could be added but nothing that you cant live without.
The GUI argument is also silly. For most basic users the default VDJ skin is more than enough for plug and play mixing. If you wanna get more advanced you can create your own skin or choose one from dozens. In fact we just got done creating what i think is the best GUI out there for 4 deck controllers (its called CDS4).
/rant
The name/brand issue is silly. Id say 90% of DJ programs have silly names but its seemingly only an issue with VDJ.
Deckdance, The One, PCDJ, Scratch Live (not Serato), MixMeister, Ultramixer, MixVibes and even Traktor (aka John Deere) all sound pretty damn silly and childish. The only ones that sound halfway decent and cool are Torq and Ableton (which is a DAW).
In reality its an issue of ingrained perceptions where some have come to see it as the fake kiddie software used by wannabes with cracked versions.
The only remotely viable argument that i have heard is about the sound engine vis-a-vis Traktor. Instead of bitching and bias id like to see a comparison with specific benchmarks to settle the issue.
Traktors effects are unmatched and there are also a few advanced features that could be added but nothing that you cant live without.
The GUI argument is also silly. For most basic users the default VDJ skin is more than enough for plug and play mixing. If you wanna get more advanced you can create your own skin or choose one from dozens. In fact we just got done creating what i think is the best GUI out there for 4 deck controllers (its called CDS4).
/rant
Here the proof that it doesn’t matter what you use as long as you do it well! In no particular order, TRAKTOR VS SERATO Comparison By DJ Qbert!!! – http://youtu.be/fTj-L7EKCL8 (he said it’s just come down to preferences). Virtual DJ Pro: DJ Larry D – http://youtu.be/2kD_bai0gMo , http://youtu.be/WPIW1N8TEHk TSP2 : DJ Dummy – http://youtu.be/x9xXU30ktcY , DJ Shiftee – http://youtu.be/G1EVo8v3OG8 . Dub FX (not a DJ! but just as awesome) – http://youtu.be/hC0ZDzs14uU , http://youtu.be/UiInBOVHpO8 . MixVibes DVS PRO pack: DJ Netik – http://youtu.be/NLJlZXMCSXY . MixVibes VFX CONTROL – Mix video like music!http://youtu.be/EC1hEth3fQI , http://youtu.be/gtYTlEa1-xA , Serato: DJ Revolution – King of The Bridge – http://youtu.be/EKGL6qVpZg8 , DJ LigOne – http://youtu.be/NsSWw9-cYiQ . (and check this he kill it on some Numark turntables). “Phenomena” DJ Routine on Traktor Kontrol S4 by Ean Golden – http://youtu.be/F4DUUDw3mww , Dj Madgic uses Torq 2.0 software – Beethoven mix 2011 – http://youtu.be/kdMEq0CYj14 . Virtual DJ Pro: myself, Maximus?Moretta – http://ustre.am/:19Ont ( fyi I’m a Latin DJ so this mix is in Spanish and I only been DJ Professionally for about two years) and for all ya DJs that are stuck on One DJ Program perfect vs all other “Band Wagon” Jump off and stop hating because all these program have their strength and their weaknesses! and I’ve seen all them preform awesomely and I’ve seen all them crash as well. so the choice is yours; you can keep hating or you can focus on your own skills. and like all good DJs say it doesn’t matter what you use just as long as you do it well!
– Maximus?Moretta
http://youtu.be/SeOXFVF3zWo
I can hate any program I want to hate this is my opinion I’m entitled to have one. I’m not speaking for every single VDJ user in the world I’m speaking for the clowns I have seen using it. Ive yet seen a Dj actually Dj a gig with a full set up using VDJ…again I’m speaking from my point of view. Maybe some are out there but I’ve never seen one. So I will continue to say kill yo self! That’s just me and I can do that
VDJ looks and feels like a toy, it’s what the kids that get all his music for free use because of course they also crack the software and this article is just filling for Friday at djtechtools, it doesn’t say anything new and leaves out decent DJ software as Torq or Deckadance.
TP2 and SSL are the main players for some reason, don’t you think guys?
VDJ looks and feels like a toy, it’s what the kids that get all his music for free use because of course they also crack the software and this article is just filling for Friday at djtechtools, it doesn’t say anything new and leaves out decent DJ software as Torq or Deckadance.
TP2 and SSL are the main players for some reason, don’t you think guys?
Feels like is one thing but it doesn’t look that much different than any other program. Know what you’re talking about before you talk, dude!
VDJ doesn’t look different to Traktor? haha! Dude, just go to the eye specialist!
Virtual DJ and Atomix are a joke. I bought their Pro software so I could video DJ with my Vestax VCI-300 MKII (like they claim). It didn’t work, crappy customer service, and no refund. Needless to say I have learned my lesson and will never support them again. Please learn from my mistake.
Here are my 2 cent, you keep hearing the same thing over and over again, So listen up Atomix! 1.re-brand the program! (change the name “VirtualDJ” it has a bad stigma behind it.) Perception is reality; in the entertainment industry!
I’m talking about, now a days; you could be the one of the four DJs at
the Club using VDJ and be killin it! and get a bad rap because of it. 2. Less is More! (make it simple for the eye to see, some of the VDJ7 skins are way too busy, for a pro DJ to use at Club)
Because why in the hell do I need a skin that looks like my CD Players
or turntables if I have my CD Players or turntables right front of me!
it looks cutie! but it’s pointless! DJs need a clear way to read the
information: bpm, cues, waveforms, effects etc. 3. Make the Difference between “Pro” and “Amateur DJ” software very clear and distinctive.
4. F*&#ing endorse some really Good! world renown DJs, show the
people who’s using their software to pack their Stadium size concerts up
with it! you need over the shoulder shots of DJ,________ (insert your
favorite DJ name) killing it with the program. These are just two of the improvements I’ll like to see for myself. 1. More support for Macs
2. Colored Wave forms, for many reasons and beside music is made up of
various musical instruments & sounds. one solid colored waveform
really doesn’t do it any justice! Maximus?Moretta! Out!
Here are my 2 cent, you keep hearing the same thing over and over again, So listen up Atomix! 1.re-brand the program! (change the name “VirtualDJ” it has a bad stigma behind it.) Perception is reality; in the entertainment industry!
I’m talking about, now a days; you could be the one of the four DJs at
the Club using VDJ and be killin it! and get a bad rap because of it. 2. Less is More! (make it simple for the eye to see, some of the VDJ7 skins are way too busy, for a pro DJ to use at Club)
Because why in the hell do I need a skin that looks like my CD Players
or turntables if I have my CD Players or turntables right front of me!
it looks cutie! but it’s pointless! DJs need a clear way to read the
information: bpm, cues, waveforms, effects etc. 3. Make the Difference between “Pro” and “Amateur DJ” software very clear and distinctive.
4. F*&#ing endorse some really Good! world renown DJs, show the
people who’s using their software to pack their Stadium size concerts up
with it! you need over the shoulder shots of DJ,________ (insert your
favorite DJ name) killing it with the program. These are just two of the improvements I’ll like to see for myself. 1. More support for Macs
2. Colored Wave forms, for many reasons and beside music is made up of
various musical instruments & sounds. one solid colored waveform
really doesn’t do it any justice! Maximus?Moretta! Out!
I decided to pick up a Numark Mixtrack Pro a couple of weeks ago just to do some small private functions.. I’ve been using Serato Scratch (on a Mac) in the clubs solidly since its beginning, but got talked into trying VDJ8 Pro by a fellow colleague for the Numark because Serato’s Intro left out a couple of key features for it (Auto-Loop for one). I gave it a fair shot & my impression of it was to coin the phrase ‘janky’ at best. It just didn’t seem solid. A lot of jerkiness in the GUI, couldn’t remember how I last saved my crates, ect. ect. The list just grew. Ended up going back to Intro even with it’s deficiency’s cause in the end it was just to rock solid. I can be fair and understand it’s popularity with the software if your doing video, as Serato has been having issues lately & Traktor does not do.. But in the end my opinion of it is like comparing a Bentley to a Hyundai. just my 2 cents.
I decided to pick up a Numark Mixtrack Pro a couple of weeks ago just to do some small private functions.. I’ve been using Serato Scratch (on a Mac) in the clubs solidly since its beginning, but got talked into trying VDJ8 Pro by a fellow colleague for the Numark because Serato’s Intro left out a couple of key features for it (Auto-Loop for one). I gave it a fair shot & my impression of it was to coin the phrase ‘janky’ at best. It just didn’t seem solid. A lot of jerkiness in the GUI, couldn’t remember how I last saved my crates, ect. ect. The list just grew. Ended up going back to Intro even with it’s deficiency’s cause in the end it was just to rock solid. I can be fair and understand it’s popularity with the software if your doing video, as Serato has been having issues lately & Traktor does not do.. But in the end my opinion of it is like comparing a Bentley to a Hyundai. just my 2 cents.
I decided to pick up a Numark Mixtrack Pro a couple of weeks ago just to do some small private functions.. I’ve been using Serato Scratch (on a Mac) in the clubs solidly since its beginning, but got talked into trying VDJ8 Pro by a fellow colleague for the Numark because Serato’s Intro left out a couple of key features for it (Auto-Loop for one). I gave it a fair shot & my impression of it was to coin the phrase ‘janky’ at best. It just didn’t seem solid. A lot of jerkiness in the GUI, couldn’t remember how I last saved my crates, ect. ect. The list just grew. Ended up going back to Intro even with it’s deficiency’s cause in the end it was just to rock solid. I can be fair and understand it’s popularity with the software if your doing video, as Serato has been having issues lately & Traktor does not do.. But in the end my opinion of it is like comparing a Bentley to a Hyundai. just my 2 cents.
I’ve used DJ Decks for a while now. Virtual DJ have gained a great asset in Adionsoft. Adion (the DJD developer) is a fantastic guy – extremely hard working and devoted.
I look forward to seeing what he can bring to Virtual DJ Pro 8.
What is DEFINITELY needed (for both DJD and VDJ8Pro) is a new user interface. The skins in DJD were COMPLETELY customisable – and a lot of users over at the DJD forum made some AWESOME skins (I even modified one myself after learning a little about it).
Bringing the UI up to scratch will give the software a great deal more credibility. (We already had multicoloured waveforms in DJD!)
I’ve used DJ Decks for a while now. Virtual DJ have gained a great asset in Adionsoft. Adion (the DJD developer) is a fantastic guy – extremely hard working and devoted.
I look forward to seeing what he can bring to Virtual DJ Pro 8.
What is DEFINITELY needed (for both DJD and VDJ8Pro) is a new user interface. The skins in DJD were COMPLETELY customisable – and a lot of users over at the DJD forum made some AWESOME skins (I even modified one myself after learning a little about it).
Bringing the UI up to scratch will give the software a great deal more credibility. (We already had multicoloured waveforms in DJD!)
Your screenshot of djDecks is several years out of date – the default one is now the T5 skin here: http://djdecks.be/register/file/dl/3370/t5v2.jpg . I used djDecks for years before switching to Traktor because of the S4’s out of the box fine resolution jogs, however I miss many aspects of djDecks that Traktor lacks, especially a proper scripting language instead of NI’s ‘macros’ (just duplicated MIDI mappings), including an entire (simple) programming language so you can customize much much more specifically, (eg, one button to do a sequence of timed tasks), tightly integrated with the deeply customizable skinning language – the capabilities of djDecks in this respect would greatly expand Ean’s controllerism pallette. I also miss small details such as VST plugins, triggering loops on exit, and proper use of MP3 tags rather than separate files to store beat etc info. I gather VSTs are not supported Traktor to ensure performance, but djDecks is far more reliable on that score with lower spec machines. It also sits between Traktor and Serato in its beatmatching – its phase matching requires oversight, but tracks require much less preparation before performance – running them through mixmeister, (BPM detection, better than Traktor’s), is usually ample. djDecks is also the epitome of a developer following his user base demands and is the culmination of years of forum discussions. Perhaps due to this, djDecks internal processor threading model is far superior to Traktors, eg, screen drawing never causes sound glitches like they can in Traktor. Finally djDecks doesn’t tie you in, for example connecting to any of the DVS systems and any controller. If controller manufacturers took djDecks seriously enough to develop a fine resolution jog interface with djDecks I’d scrap Traktor tomorrow.
The T5 skin has been updated further to include Video mixing and a few bits of housekeeping: http://forum.djdecks.be/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5738
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Thanks tintin.
I do want to add that this isn’t an anti-Traktor rant – there’s loads I love about it that no other option can do, eg, in terms of a pre-designed, well-prepared and practiced performance, Traktor probably is best. For experimenters and improvisors on the other hand, djDecks’ flexibility, ease of setup and user-led feature set stand out.
Nothing comes close to djDecks scripting or vendor-neutral versatility,
for example. Traktor Scratch only permits ‘licensed’ interfaces to be
used for DVS, for example, blackmailing users into buying NI-favoured
hardware. djDecks permits you to use any audio interface to capture
Traktor Scratch timecode, as well as any other type of timecode.
I just want to clarify that djDecks has strengths cosmetic, functional, paradigmatic and deeply under-the-bonnet-technical that are unmatched by anyone else, however expensive and ‘industry-standard’. As Djing and music continue to evolve the appetite for this flexibility and diversity will only increase.
Noted and updating now.
That being said, they still advertise the shot that I posted as THE screenshot of their software on their website.
Noted and updating now.
That being said, they still advertise the shot that I posted as THE screenshot of their software on their website.
Noted and updating now.
That being said, they still advertise the shot that I posted as THE screenshot of their software on their website.
Noted and updating now.
That being said, they still advertise the shot that I posted as THE screenshot of their software on their website.
Your screenshot of djDecks is several years out of date – the default one is now the T5 skin here: http://djdecks.be/register/file/dl/3370/t5v2.jpg . I used djDecks for years before switching to Traktor because of the S4’s out of the box fine resolution jogs, however I miss many aspects of djDecks that Traktor lacks, especially a proper scripting language instead of NI’s ‘macros’ (just duplicated MIDI mappings), including an entire (simple) programming language so you can customize much much more specifically, (eg, one button to do a sequence of timed tasks), tightly integrated with the deeply customizable skinning language – the capabilities of djDecks in this respect would greatly expand Ean’s controllerism pallette. I also miss small details such as VST plugins, triggering loops on exit, and proper use of MP3 tags rather than separate files to store beat etc info. I gather VSTs are not supported Traktor to ensure performance, but djDecks is far more reliable on that score with lower spec machines. It also sits between Traktor and Serato in its beatmatching – its phase matching requires oversight, but tracks require much less preparation before performance – running them through mixmeister, (BPM detection, better than Traktor’s), is usually ample. djDecks is also the epitome of a developer following his user base demands and is the culmination of years of forum discussions. Perhaps due to this, djDecks internal processor threading model is far superior to Traktors, eg, screen drawing never causes sound glitches like they can in Traktor. Finally djDecks doesn’t tie you in, for example connecting to any of the DVS systems and any controller. If controller manufacturers took djDecks seriously enough to develop a fine resolution jog interface with djDecks I’d scrap Traktor tomorrow.
Whilst Virtual DJ needs an overhaul in a few technical areas (sound engine), it has been a major player for some time, it has a great list of features and supports more controllers and file formats than anything else, it has in-built key detection (which is pretty accurate), and a strong video engine (outputs at higher quality than VSL).
In terms of the branding, The “virtual” in question relates to an environment and engine that is not physical hardware, sure you can “control” the software using traditional hardware but that doesn’t change the fact that the software is what powers it. So in this respect any software you use is “virtual”, even CD players are virtual because they work off inbuilt software, they aren’t turntables.
Finally, whilst a lot of poor DJ’s use Virtual DJ, not everyone that uses Virtual DJ is a poor DJ, there are some very talented DJ’s who use it and this includes some big names some of you Traktor and Serato users aspire to be like!
It’s not what you use it’s how you use it – and all of these programs are easy to mix with if your sole aim is to match two beats, there’s much more to DJ’ing than that if you just knew it…
Whilst Virtual DJ needs an overhaul in a few technical areas (sound engine), it has been a major player for some time, it has a great list of features and supports more controllers and file formats than anything else, it has in-built key detection (which is pretty accurate), and a strong video engine (outputs at higher quality than VSL).
In terms of the branding, The “virtual” in question relates to an environment and engine that is not physical hardware, sure you can “control” the software using traditional hardware but that doesn’t change the fact that the software is what powers it. So in this respect any software you use is “virtual”, even CD players are virtual because they work off inbuilt software, they aren’t turntables.
Finally, whilst a lot of poor DJ’s use Virtual DJ, not everyone that uses Virtual DJ is a poor DJ, there are some very talented DJ’s who use it and this includes some big names some of you Traktor and Serato users aspire to be like!
It’s not what you use it’s how you use it – and all of these programs are easy to mix with if your sole aim is to match two beats, there’s much more to DJ’ing than that if you just knew it…
Whilst Virtual DJ needs an overhaul in a few technical areas (sound engine), it has been a major player for some time, it has a great list of features and supports more controllers and file formats than anything else, it has in-built key detection (which is pretty accurate), and a strong video engine (outputs at higher quality than VSL).
In terms of the branding, The “virtual” in question relates to an environment and engine that is not physical hardware, sure you can “control” the software using traditional hardware but that doesn’t change the fact that the software is what powers it. So in this respect any software you use is “virtual”, even CD players are virtual because they work off inbuilt software, they aren’t turntables.
Finally, whilst a lot of poor DJ’s use Virtual DJ, not everyone that uses Virtual DJ is a poor DJ, there are some very talented DJ’s who use it and this includes some big names some of you Traktor and Serato users aspire to be like!
It’s not what you use it’s how you use it – and all of these programs are easy to mix with if your sole aim is to match two beats, there’s much more to DJ’ing than that if you just knew it…
Whilst Virtual DJ needs an overhaul in a few technical areas (sound engine), it has been a major player for some time, it has a great list of features and supports more controllers and file formats than anything else, it has in-built key detection (which is pretty accurate), and a strong video engine (outputs at higher quality than VSL).
In terms of the branding, The “virtual” in question relates to an environment and engine that is not physical hardware, sure you can “control” the software using traditional hardware but that doesn’t change the fact that the software is what powers it. So in this respect any software you use is “virtual”, even CD players are virtual because they work off inbuilt software, they aren’t turntables.
Finally, whilst a lot of poor DJ’s use Virtual DJ, not everyone that uses Virtual DJ is a poor DJ, there are some very talented DJ’s who use it and this includes some big names some of you Traktor and Serato users aspire to be like!
It’s not what you use it’s how you use it – and all of these programs are easy to mix with if your sole aim is to match two beats, there’s much more to DJ’ing than that if you just knew it…
Amen dude, vdj IS a decent program, as far as controllerism is concerned it just needs more sample options, cue options, and easier effects access. It’s timecode needs some work too, but considering the use of music videos is free, I stand by it, even though it has crashed more often than I’d like.
Amen dude, vdj IS a decent program, as far as controllerism is concerned it just needs more sample options, cue options, and easier effects access. It’s timecode needs some work too, but considering the use of music videos is free, I stand by it, even though it has crashed more often than I’d like.
Whilst Virtual DJ needs an overhaul in a few technical areas (sound engine), it has been a major player for some time, it has a great list of features and supports more controllers and file formats than anything else, it has in-built key detection (which is pretty accurate), and a strong video engine (outputs at higher quality than VSL).
In terms of the branding, The “virtual” in question relates to an environment and engine that is not physical hardware, sure you can “control” the software using traditional hardware but that doesn’t change the fact that the software is what powers it. So in this respect any software you use is “virtual”, even CD players are virtual because they work off inbuilt software, they aren’t turntables.
Finally, whilst a lot of poor DJ’s use Virtual DJ, not everyone that uses Virtual DJ is a poor DJ, there are some very talented DJ’s who use it and this includes some big names some of you Traktor and Serato users aspire to be like!
It’s not what you use it’s how you use it – and all of these programs are easy to mix with if your sole aim is to match two beats, there’s much more to DJ’ing than that if you just knew it…
Whilst Virtual DJ needs an overhaul in a few technical areas (sound engine), it has been a major player for some time, it has a great list of features and supports more controllers and file formats than anything else, it has in-built key detection (which is pretty accurate), and a strong video engine (outputs at higher quality than VSL).
In terms of the branding, The “virtual” in question relates to an environment and engine that is not physical hardware, sure you can “control” the software using traditional hardware but that doesn’t change the fact that the software is what powers it. So in this respect any software you use is “virtual”, even CD players are virtual because they work off inbuilt software, they aren’t turntables.
Finally, whilst a lot of poor DJ’s use Virtual DJ, not everyone that uses Virtual DJ is a poor DJ, there are some very talented DJ’s who use it and this includes some big names some of you Traktor and Serato users aspire to be like!
It’s not what you use it’s how you use it – and all of these programs are easy to mix with if your sole aim is to match two beats, there’s much more to DJ’ing than that if you just knew it…
i agree on the name issue, virtual dj needs to put some time and effort into re-branding itself. Also “the one” is a pretty childish name as well.
not only does it sound dumb to say, it makes you wonder what kind of people are behind a product who would think to name it that.
i agree on the name issue, virtual dj needs to put some time and effort into re-branding itself. Also “the one” is a pretty childish name as well.
not only does it sound dumb to say, it makes you wonder what kind of people are behind a product who would think to name it that.
i agree on the name issue, virtual dj needs to put some time and effort into re-branding itself. Also “the one” is a pretty childish name as well.
not only does it sound dumb to say, it makes you wonder what kind of people are behind a product who would think to name it that.
i agree on the name issue, virtual dj needs to put some time and effort into re-branding itself. Also “the one” is a pretty childish name as well.
not only does it sound dumb to say, it makes you wonder what kind of people are behind a product who would think to name it that.
This is hilarious as most Serato and Traktor users secretly use VirtualDJ and won’t admit it. Until Serato and Traktor (the so called heavy weights) have native video and karaoke support as well as the ability to change the look of the interface itself, they will always remain behind the curve.
This is hilarious as most Serato and Traktor users secretly use VirtualDJ and won’t admit it. Until Serato and Traktor (the so called heavy weights) have native video and karaoke support as well as the ability to change the look of the interface itself, they will always remain behind the curve.
This is hilarious as most Serato and Traktor users secretly use VirtualDJ and won’t admit it. Until Serato and Traktor (the so called heavy weights) have native video and karaoke support as well as the ability to change the look of the interface itself, they will always remain behind the curve.
This is hilarious as most Serato and Traktor users secretly use VirtualDJ and won’t admit it. Until Serato and Traktor (the so called heavy weights) have native video and karaoke support as well as the ability to change the look of the interface itself, they will always remain behind the curve.
This is hilarious as most Serato and Traktor users secretly use VirtualDJ and won’t admit it. Until Serato and Traktor (the so called heavy weights) have native video and karaoke support as well as the ability to change the look of the interface itself, they will always remain behind the curve.
The thing is that most DJ’s that play out in clubs and other big venues could, generally, give a rats ass about video and karaoke support. Usually they only deal with the audio aspect. So usually when these programs are examined, the emphasis is on which program has the best tools to handle the audio aspect the best. i.e. waveform quality, GUI, platter tightness, browser, etc.
The thing is that most DJ’s that play out in clubs and other big venues could, generally, give a rats ass about video and karaoke support. Usually they only deal with the audio aspect. So usually when these programs are examined, the emphasis is on which program has the best tools to handle the audio aspect the best. i.e. waveform quality, GUI, platter tightness, browser, etc.
“This is hilarious as most Serato and Traktor users secretly use VirtualDJ and won’t admit it.” HAHAHAHAHAHA
Let me fix this for you. “This is hilarious as most VirtualDJ users secretly wish they could use Serato and Traktor but don’t want to spend money on real software and prefer running pirate copies of everything they own.”
“This is hilarious as most Serato and Traktor users secretly use VirtualDJ and won’t admit it.” HAHAHAHAHAHA
Let me fix this for you. “This is hilarious as most VirtualDJ users secretly wish they could use Serato and Traktor but don’t want to spend money on real software and prefer running pirate copies of everything they own.”
Way wrong bro, at least for me, I use serato when I have no video access, because I’d rather be on tables. But if I can load up 10 to 20 massive screens with music videos and video effects for free I’m down.
Way wrong bro, at least for me, I use serato when I have no video access, because I’d rather be on tables. But if I can load up 10 to 20 massive screens with music videos and video effects for free I’m down.
You can use music videos in serato, it just costs a few hundred.
You can use music videos in serato, it just costs a few hundred.
laughable
laughable
laughable
VDJ actually even coming close to compete with Tractor!
What a Joke!
Like this if you agree!
VDJ actually even coming close to compete with Tractor!
What a Joke!
Like this if you agree!
Regardless of what sof
Regardless of what sof
This is pretty much going to put traktor out of business…. traktor sucks Di**
This is pretty much going to put traktor out of business…. traktor sucks Di**
Used VDJ ans Serato a few times but Traktor is just what i need… Peace.
What pisses me off the most is the complexity and lack of user friendly of mapping functions. I haven’t used a lot of different programs but the ones I’ve used, including Traktor (which is my baby and one true love) are just counter productive in every way imaginable. I think whoever comes out with a stable, feature filled program WITH easy mapping… for me, that’s a winner, and what is totally lacking on the scene today.
i use VDJ for it’s hardware support, ease of use & scripting,skins to match my controllers, and because it works well for me.
having said that, i do think a change to the VDJ name could really help.
and there is something to be said for the number of DJs using whichever software – i’m sure you will find a lot more wedding DJs using VDJ, but likely performance artists will be using one of “the big 2”.
different strokes for different folks.
anyway – thanks for the article, i will be on the lookout for VDJ 8.
& to all the angry commentors with your endless hatred, don’t ever change. the world needs tw!ts like you (for sacrifice)
how easy can a mapping language get other than vdj´s? its so powerfull, even more powerfull than Traktors mapping approach. It can recreate ANY mapping from traktor in VDJ easily! Its the easiest way, and can be as complex as one wishes. It uses variables, actions and modifiers just like traktor, but in a much more intelligent way. I would like to advise you to check out the newest home free version and check out the actual mapping capabilities yourself
Actually, I’d argue that Torq has the most simple mapping of any program. Right clicking any parameter in the program and then move the knob, fader, or pot that you want it to correspond to and it’s done. And also, their mapping editor is really easy to use as well. But yeah, I digress, anything is more simple than traktor lol
VDJ also has the same capability, just the other way around 😉 Select/ press/ move a knob or slider or button and than select a function by clicking its on screen equivalent. AND you can also go deeper with complex mappings by adding parameters, multipliers, state selectors… everything you can think off. Torq has kind off a similar aproach, just not as much actionverbs as VDJ. I believe there are over 2000 mappable actions in VDJ, the VDJ script database is huge. If you are interested, feel free to check out the wiki fpr VDJscript on virtualdj.com/wiki
Touché lol. I guess you learn something new everyday
Actually, I’d argue that Torq has the most simple mapping of any program. Right clicking any parameter in the program and then move the knob, fader, or pot that you want it to correspond to and it’s done. And also, their mapping editor is really easy to use as well. But yeah, I digress, anything is more simple than traktor lol
how easy can a mapping language get other than vdj´s? its so powerfull, even more powerfull than Traktors mapping approach. It can recreate ANY mapping from traktor in VDJ easily! Its the easiest way, and can be as complex as one wishes. It uses variables, actions and modifiers just like traktor, but in a much more intelligent way. I would like to advise you to check out the newest home free version and check out the actual mapping capabilities yourself
how easy can a mapping language get other than vdj´s? its so powerfull, even more powerfull than Traktors mapping approach. It can recreate ANY mapping from traktor in VDJ easily! Its the easiest way, and can be as complex as one wishes. It uses variables, actions and modifiers just like traktor, but in a much more intelligent way. I would like to advise you to check out the newest home free version and check out the actual mapping capabilities yourself
I totally agree on this point, stability, easy workflow both in preparation and live situation. AND plzzz would some company stop treating us a BETA users, and create a product that JUST works, like charm.. ( spend a day trying to get TP2 to behave) *fustrated* . It is actually quite funny to watch huge name dj’s sticking to TP and having all the rest of us fools do free testing, till a final stable application is finally ready.
As an Ableton-user, I have to say I’m curious about The One. Not enough so that I tried getting in on the Beta-testing, but enough so that I will probably give it a chance after it’s dropped if it still seems as interesting as it does now.
I won’t switch out Ableton as my producing DAW, but there might be some fun in trying another software for a small set or two.
Man to me VDJ is. Joke. I do laugh at everyone who uses it because it take no skill what so ever to use it, all you have to do is hit sync and that’s it. Wheres the skill? I can proudly say I hate VDJ and will never use it and if you come in my face yeah I’m gonna laugh at you and tell you to kill yourself!
While I personally do not like or use VDJ, your argument is flawed. VDJ isn’t the only program in which you can just have no skill and push sync. The same can be done in Traktor, Torq, and most other DJ softwares. Having one program or another doesn’t give you “skill”, that’s still what’s left up to the DJ, not the program. But, that being said, I’m with you on not liking VDJ, it’s not my cup of tea. But hey, to each his own, and if a DJ with tremendous skill can use it and play a killer set, more power to him.
I’m ashamed of hearing DJs say how much they “HATE” VDJ. I’m even MORE ashamed when they attribute it to the fact that “(derp) [VDJ] has a sync button; no skillz needed.”
VDJ don’t work for ya? Fine. Use what you want. Kill myself? Get your butt out of here and grow a brain. You’re just as silly as the drunk birthday girl who wants you to spin “real music.”
I’m proud of my fellow comrades who just leaves it at, “Nah, it’s not the thing for me, cuz I can do [this] with [this].” Good on ya, mates.
IMO the only battle you have in the DJing world is, “I have this thing here. Can I do something cool with it?”
I got the suggestion to start off with it ’cause it was free. Since I didn’t have an actual set-up to study and work off of (aka spend an ass-load amount of money), VDJ trial was small and free. And a trial that wasn’t annoying (e.g. time restrictions) but provides core basics (two decks with spinning “vinyls” and all) makes it a pretty heroic move for any software. And I’ll admit, those were the times when I mashed the sync button to see how things work. Like all other software nowadays, you just don’t use it unless it’s an emergency.VDJ is pretty solid for software DJs, but it does a lot more than it should be doing (e.g. video mixing/effects, broadcasting, etc.) For that aspect, there’re some compensations/complications. I personally think that the effects in there can make your mix sound mediocre.
Man to me Traktor Pro is a Joke. I do laugh at everyone who uses it
because it take no skill what so ever to use it, all you have to do is
hit sync and that’s it. Wheres the skill? It even does quantized and snapped triggering. Where´s the skill if one doesnt even need to press a button AT THE RIGHT TIME! that shit is foolproof, must be the reason why most TP fans are so biased like that ^^
Its a sad thing, most people on here judging VDJ dont know shit about it other than some bs- prejudice. Sheeple.
ps. i dont laugh at TP or its users,that has been sarcasm.
Man to me Traktor Pro is a Joke. I do laugh at everyone who uses it
because it take no skill what so ever to use it, all you have to do is
hit sync and that’s it. Wheres the skill? It even does quantized and snapped triggering. Where´s the skill if one doesnt even need to press a button AT THE RIGHT TIME! that shit is foolproof, must be the reason why most TP fans are so biased like that ^^
Its a sad thing, most people on here judging VDJ dont know shit about it other than some bs- prejudice. Sheeple.
ps. i dont laugh at TP or its users,that has been sarcasm.
Man to me Traktor Pro is a Joke. I do laugh at everyone who uses it
because it take no skill what so ever to use it, all you have to do is
hit sync and that’s it. Wheres the skill? It even does quantized and snapped triggering. Where´s the skill if one doesnt even need to press a button AT THE RIGHT TIME! that shit is foolproof, must be the reason why most TP fans are so biased like that ^^
Its a sad thing, most people on here judging VDJ dont know shit about it other than some bs- prejudice. Sheeple.
ps. i dont laugh at TP or its users,that has been sarcasm.
And Traktor and Serato (Itch) don’t have SYNC features? And the Traktor Sync feature has been showcased on this site! So, if that is the only factor that breaks one from having any skill, then everyone is pretty much becoming a ‘SyncJock’ – right?
And Traktor and Serato (Itch) don’t have SYNC features? And the Traktor Sync feature has been showcased on this site! So, if that is the only factor that breaks one from having any skill, then everyone is pretty much becoming a ‘SyncJock’ – right?
@DJCC the sync function is optional, not obligatory. No one forces you to use it. It’s not engaged permanently, it’s there to fall back on if you need it. DJing with VDJ takes just as much skill as using turntables, CD players or other DJ software. Learn the facts before you unleash your venom.
@DJCC the sync function is optional, not obligatory. No one forces you to use it. It’s not engaged permanently, it’s there to fall back on if you need it. DJing with VDJ takes just as much skill as using turntables, CD players or other DJ software. Learn the facts before you unleash your venom.
@DJCC the sync function is optional, not obligatory. No one forces you to use it. It’s not engaged permanently, it’s there to fall back on if you need it. DJing with VDJ takes just as much skill as using turntables, CD players or other DJ software. Learn the facts before you unleash your venom.
@DJCC the sync function is optional, not obligatory. No one forces you to use it. It’s not engaged permanently, it’s there to fall back on if you need it. DJing with VDJ takes just as much skill as using turntables, CD players or other DJ software. Learn the facts before you unleash your venom.
@DJCC the sync function is optional, not obligatory. No one forces you to use it. It’s not engaged permanently, it’s there to fall back on if you need it. DJing with VDJ takes just as much skill as using turntables, CD players or other DJ software. Learn the facts before you unleash your venom.
I hope we see the day that you eat your words or get an education. lol
Your ignorance is amusing
I hope we see the day that you eat your words or get an education. lol
Your ignorance is amusing
I hope we see the day that you eat your words or get an education. lol
Your ignorance is amusing
You can sync in traktor, but regardless just because a button is there doesn’t mean you have to use it.
You can sync in traktor, but regardless just because a button is there doesn’t mean you have to use it.
And I also think Virtual DJ is a lousy name for a professional DJ software. They should think about that really hard. It sounds like a software for bedroom DJs who will never go beyond that and I bet there isn’t one Bedroom DJ out there that doesn’t have even a small aspiration to do a live performance. Being “virtual” just completely goes against that visualization.
“A am virtually a DJ, but not really!” :p Terrible name….
scamo
I never understood the name problem. After all a Traktor is something that a farmer uses and has absolutely nothing to do with DJing or music at all, but nobody seems to care about this.
Agreed. Serato sounds like something for vocals and stage performances while The One sounds like a terrible Matrix reference. If anything, I think the VDJ sounds like something completely entry leveled, which may or may not be.
Yes, but Traktor and Serato don’t imply being only “virtually” a DJ. Look at the definition of virtual in wikipedia.
Colloquially, virtual is used to mean almost, particularly when used in the adverbial form e.g. “That’s virtually [almost] impossible”.
So, the synonymous meaning of the name “Virtual DJ” is “Almost a DJ”.
Who wants to be almost a DJ?
scamo
Yes, but Traktor and Serato don’t imply being only “virtually” a DJ. Look at the definition of virtual in wikipedia.
Colloquially, virtual is used to mean almost, particularly when used in the adverbial form e.g. “That’s virtually [almost] impossible”.
So, the synonymous meaning of the name “Virtual DJ” is “Almost a DJ”.
Who wants to be almost a DJ?
scamo
Sorry, but since the mid-90’s the term “virtual” has been associated with computers (virtual reality and stuff like that). When someone says “This is virtually impossible”, I don’t think that he can do it only with a computer and when someone talks about something being virtual, without the “ly” at the end, I don’t think that he talks about impossibilities.
The only real problem with the name comes IMO from how digital DJing has changed over the years. When VDJ was introduced, this name was legit, because it was mostly about mixing with mouse and computer keyboard, but since then it has become surprisingly hardware oriented, with controllers, timecode Vinyl/CD and stuff like that. So the thought, that “virtual DJing” has to be done in your computer only, is obsolete. And that’s the only reason why I would endorse a name change. Not because of some mock association.
Sorry, but since the mid-90’s the term “virtual” has been associated with computers (virtual reality and stuff like that). When someone says “This is virtually impossible”, I don’t think that he can do it only with a computer and when someone talks about something being virtual, without the “ly” at the end, I don’t think that he talks about impossibilities.
The only real problem with the name comes IMO from how digital DJing has changed over the years. When VDJ was introduced, this name was legit, because it was mostly about mixing with mouse and computer keyboard, but since then it has become surprisingly hardware oriented, with controllers, timecode Vinyl/CD and stuff like that. So the thought, that “virtual DJing” has to be done in your computer only, is obsolete. And that’s the only reason why I would endorse a name change. Not because of some mock association.
There you have it! You’ve explained the problem perfectly. Virtual DJ might have been a great name years ago, when you could virtually be a DJ with a mouse and keyboard. And since then, with the wide spread of electronically transmitted music and the debut of controllers and such, it isn’t so far fetched to use the computer to be a DJ. It happens all the time now. So the name simply is crap for the times.
And you say “mock association”. Words always create visualizations in the mind. We don’t think in words. We think in pictures. And so the word Virtual DJ, I would imagine, gives people exactly the visualization you just painted. Someone sitting on a computer with mouse and keyboard trying to be a DJ.
Like you said, 😉 it just doesn’t fit for the times and if Atomix want to seriously break away from that “perception”, they should change the name. That is simply my opinion. I am not saying the software is good or bad. I am just saying, the name sucks.
scamo
There you have it! You’ve explained the problem perfectly. Virtual DJ might have been a great name years ago, when you could virtually be a DJ with a mouse and keyboard. And since then, with the wide spread of electronically transmitted music and the debut of controllers and such, it isn’t so far fetched to use the computer to be a DJ. It happens all the time now. So the name simply is crap for the times.
And you say “mock association”. Words always create visualizations in the mind. We don’t think in words. We think in pictures. And so the word Virtual DJ, I would imagine, gives people exactly the visualization you just painted. Someone sitting on a computer with mouse and keyboard trying to be a DJ.
Like you said, 😉 it just doesn’t fit for the times and if Atomix want to seriously break away from that “perception”, they should change the name. That is simply my opinion. I am not saying the software is good or bad. I am just saying, the name sucks.
scamo
There you have it! You’ve explained the problem perfectly. Virtual DJ might have been a great name years ago, when you could virtually be a DJ with a mouse and keyboard. And since then, with the wide spread of electronically transmitted music and the debut of controllers and such, it isn’t so far fetched to use the computer to be a DJ. It happens all the time now. So the name simply is crap for the times.
And you say “mock association”. Words always create visualizations in the mind. We don’t think in words. We think in pictures. And so the word Virtual DJ, I would imagine, gives people exactly the visualization you just painted. Someone sitting on a computer with mouse and keyboard trying to be a DJ.
Like you said, 😉 it just doesn’t fit for the times and if Atomix want to seriously break away from that “perception”, they should change the name. That is simply my opinion. I am not saying the software is good or bad. I am just saying, the name sucks.
scamo
You guys are retarded bringing up name issues – you both know you did your research on your own, at least I assume you did if you have any respect for yourselves as DJ’s. It’s a name, get over it. They all sound stupid, they really do, however – those names have become associated with certain reputations. You discovered that traktor is great for controllers, serato is great for vinyl, and vdj is just kinda sittin around being the third wheel. The name means nothing because as DJs we always look into what we invest time and money into. If we don’t then we risk being way behind the curve and that’s a risk not worth taking, hence the research.
In conclusion: are you kidding me with this name bullsh*t?
You guys are retarded bringing up name issues – you both know you did your research on your own, at least I assume you did if you have any respect for yourselves as DJ’s. It’s a name, get over it. They all sound stupid, they really do, however – those names have become associated with certain reputations. You discovered that traktor is great for controllers, serato is great for vinyl, and vdj is just kinda sittin around being the third wheel. The name means nothing because as DJs we always look into what we invest time and money into. If we don’t then we risk being way behind the curve and that’s a risk not worth taking, hence the research.
In conclusion: are you kidding me with this name bullsh*t?
You guys are retarded bringing up name issues – you both know you did your research on your own, at least I assume you did if you have any respect for yourselves as DJ’s. It’s a name, get over it. They all sound stupid, they really do, however – those names have become associated with certain reputations. You discovered that traktor is great for controllers, serato is great for vinyl, and vdj is just kinda sittin around being the third wheel. The name means nothing because as DJs we always look into what we invest time and money into. If we don’t then we risk being way behind the curve and that’s a risk not worth taking, hence the research.
In conclusion: are you kidding me with this name bullsh*t?
You guys are retarded bringing up name issues – you both know you did your research on your own, at least I assume you did if you have any respect for yourselves as DJ’s. It’s a name, get over it. They all sound stupid, they really do, however – those names have become associated with certain reputations. You discovered that traktor is great for controllers, serato is great for vinyl, and vdj is just kinda sittin around being the third wheel. The name means nothing because as DJs we always look into what we invest time and money into. If we don’t then we risk being way behind the curve and that’s a risk not worth taking, hence the research.
In conclusion: are you kidding me with this name bullsh*t?
You guys are retarded bringing up name issues – you both know you did your research on your own, at least I assume you did if you have any respect for yourselves as DJ’s. It’s a name, get over it. They all sound stupid, they really do, however – those names have become associated with certain reputations. You discovered that traktor is great for controllers, serato is great for vinyl, and vdj is just kinda sittin around being the third wheel. The name means nothing because as DJs we always look into what we invest time and money into. If we don’t then we risk being way behind the curve and that’s a risk not worth taking, hence the research.
In conclusion: are you kidding me with this name bullsh*t?
You guys are retarded bringing up name issues – you both know you did your research on your own, at least I assume you did if you have any respect for yourselves as DJ’s. It’s a name, get over it. They all sound stupid, they really do, however – those names have become associated with certain reputations. You discovered that traktor is great for controllers, serato is great for vinyl, and vdj is just kinda sittin around being the third wheel. The name means nothing because as DJs we always look into what we invest time and money into. If we don’t then we risk being way behind the curve and that’s a risk not worth taking, hence the research.
In conclusion: are you kidding me with this name bullsh*t?
You guys are retarded bringing up name issues – you both know you did your research on your own, at least I assume you did if you have any respect for yourselves as DJ’s. It’s a name, get over it. They all sound stupid, they really do, however – those names have become associated with certain reputations. You discovered that traktor is great for controllers, serato is great for vinyl, and vdj is just kinda sittin around being the third wheel. The name means nothing because as DJs we always look into what we invest time and money into. If we don’t then we risk being way behind the curve and that’s a risk not worth taking, hence the research.
In conclusion: are you kidding me with this name bullsh*t?
Sorry, but since the mid-90’s the term “virtual” has been associated with computers (virtual reality and stuff like that). When someone says “This is virtually impossible”, I don’t think that he can do it only with a computer and when someone talks about something being virtual, without the “ly” at the end, I don’t think that he talks about impossibilities.
The only real problem with the name comes IMO from how digital DJing has changed over the years. When VDJ was introduced, this name was legit, because it was mostly about mixing with mouse and computer keyboard, but since then it has become surprisingly hardware oriented, with controllers, timecode Vinyl/CD and stuff like that. So the thought, that “virtual DJing” has to be done in your computer only, is obsolete. And that’s the only reason why I would endorse a name change. Not because of some mock association.
By the way, it’s ‘Tractor’ unless you’re german. Also, i think Traktor is used in the name to represent power, much like Torq.
By the way, it’s ‘Tractor’ unless you’re german. Also, i think Traktor is used in the name to represent power, much like Torq.
If you made a new skin (obviously on VDJ as the others don’t give you this option) and put a Traktor2.0 or Serato+ emplem on the corner, brought some NI/SSL Dj’s over and didn’t let them “see” what they were mixing with, they would ALL say VDJ is now really dead. The real comment should have been “This is hilarious as most Serato and Traktor users would secretly love to have the capabilities of VirtualDJ and won’t admit it.”
They should rename the product MoreCapabilities4theDJ (MC4DJ), but it would still be VDJ.
“I love this Numark CUE software, it’s completely awesome!”
“You do know that CUE is actually Virtual DJ with a Numark logo on it, right?”
“Uhhhhh… no, I didn’t. What a piece of crap. Maybe I should try Traktor?”
i completely agree with you a 100% the name is deff one of the things thats kept me away from this software. they really should rename their product.
if the name keeps you away from the product, you clearly have bigger issues. The only ones who judge dj software are other dj´s. and if you care about what other dj´s think of you, shame on you. How can this be taken seriously? Its not about the tools, its about what you do with it.
if the name keeps you away from the product, you clearly have bigger issues. The only ones who judge dj software are other dj´s. and if you care about what other dj´s think of you, shame on you. How can this be taken seriously? Its not about the tools, its about what you do with it.
You know, product perception is one of the biggest marketing issues a company can face. A products “first impression”, including its name, is the first hurdle every consumer has and Moises expresses simply he doesn’t want to cross that hurdle, basically because of the name. Moises doesn’t even mention “other DJ’s”, so shame on you for pulling in an argument that doesn’t even jive with the issue.
“Its not about the tools, its about what you do with it.” Huh? I think what you wanted to say is, “It doesn’t matter how good the tool is, if you suck, you then still suck with a good tool.” LOL! And that also has nothing to do with the point being made.
Let me put it anther way. If you have a bad tool, you can do all you want with it, it still sucks and brings down your quality as a user too. So it IS about the tool. Think about what you said again please.
And I am not saying VDJ is a bad tool. I couldn’t, because I’ve never used it. I am just making a point in general.
scamo
if the name keeps you away from the product, you clearly have bigger issues. The only ones who judge dj software are other dj´s. and if you care about what other dj´s think of you, shame on you. How can this be taken seriously? Its not about the tools, its about what you do with it.
if the name keeps you away from the product, you clearly have bigger issues. The only ones who judge dj software are other dj´s. and if you care about what other dj´s think of you, shame on you. How can this be taken seriously? Its not about the tools, its about what you do with it.
Um, not really sure your analogy with NeXT hits the mark. Apple only bought NeXT to get Steve Jobs back. Steve actually founded NeXT after he left Apple. So, if Atomix is getting a Steve Jobs of DJ Software kind of leader from adionSoft, then the analogy is a bit off.;)
scamo
is this a joke?
I’m not trying to hate virtual dj, but I’m one of the people who had it crash only minutes into doing vanilla 1-2 mixing the first couple times I tried it. After the third or fourth crash I stopped saying “maybe it’s a fluke” and assumed the software wasn’t stable.
Dj’s can be very stubborn about their views (see the “Serato vs. Traktor” or “Technics vs. The World” threads on any forum). If I was in charge over there I would at least consider nuking the company completely and starting a fresh company to hide all evidence that the virtualdj guys were associated with the new product. Really, you know there are dj’s who won’t even try VDJ 8 when it comes out, but will try “The One.”
Having said all that, I realize I haven’t checked in on vdj in over a year. I guess I should head over to their site and see how everything’s going in their latest version so that I don’t feel like a closed-minded dj.
this article is “not good” in my opinion. Its a good read, well written but poorly researched. VDJ already is a MAJOR player, but no “competition” to Traktor or SSL, cause both cannot do what VDJ can, not even close! Even if they would be competition, they would be on the same level, or VDJ above SSL and TP, not below!
Why doesnt DJTT take into account that its very successfull allready, and doesnt need to step up to compete with either. That whould be a downgrade. Seriously, the article is just as biased like ” it’s still widely and unfairly considered by many DJs and industry folks to be a bit of a joke.” Yeah, thats why more and more hardware manufacturers bundle with VDJ rather than Traktor.
“Serious competition for the Big Two” LOL ! who are the big two? SSL and traktor? dont think so, just look at sales numbers, google hits, forum members, registered users compared to Virtual DJ. The big two are Serato and NI, because they do sell more than one software. they also do expensive software licensing and hardware, thats where most of the bang comes from, nothing else.
The point the article is claiming is that ATOMIX is becoming competition to NI and Serato by buying out Alcatech. These are companys, maybe the article should focus on that instead of refreshing prejudice about VDJ.
/rant over
Hey, dude, cool your jets. I’m a proud former Virtual DJ user, used it for two years when I first started out. I love the software, it does quite a bit that Traktor and Serato do not.
Do you have access to sales numbers? I’d love to see them.
Virtual DJ LE is included with a large number of controllers because Atomix is willing to bundle their light edition with more controllers in order to get people to use Virtual DJ – it’s not an indication of the success of the product, but instead a marketing tool.
Ever been to a club and seen a Virtual DJ system as the club install? a chance to be taken more seriously by a lot of the market.
Hi. please excuse me, i did not want to disrespect you or your article.
As i said, its well written and a good read. Its just the way you phrased some things that do bother me as a long time djtt reader and contributor. Basically, i wished VDJ would have not been considered a minor player, less good than TP or SSL or a tool, inside a DJTT article. hope you understand, its not against you or your article besides this little fact.
Sadly, i do not have access to sales numbers, maybe ask Atomix about that? Anything else i mentioned can easily be checked
It is well known that e.g. Pioneer reached out to Atomix to support VDJ with the DDJ-Ergo, Denon started the cooperation on the MC6000 and MC3000 and American Audio on the VMS4 and VMS2. Clearly its also a marketing tool from Atomix, but also a HUGE indicator of success, dont you think?. And those Versions aint that light, as they mostly all do 4 decks, sampler and effects without the need to upgrade. Atomix is basically giving those versions away for almost free, as the controllers dont get raised in value if they bundle with VDJ.
I have seen VDJ as a club install, several times. Never have i seen Traktor or SSL as a club install. I have seen SL2´s and NI Audio 8´s installed in the booth though. Again, it all comes down to where you live. It might be that americans lack the oversight of the european market.
Dude, VDJ is a joke! If you went to a club and used it every dj there would laugh in your face. It gives djs a bad rep. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been djing and some “hotshot dj” kid comes up to me and tries to tell me he’s an awesome dj. When I ask him what he spins on he says virtual dj, and he just does it on his computer. It makes me want to kill myself by repeatedly running into a brick wall.
Traktor Pro > VDJ
First off, I went to a club. I played with VDJ PRO and video. 2 Times DMC World Champion DJ Shiftee and the electrohouse legend Strip Steve/Boyze Noise didnt have a problem with that. So forgive me if i dont take that argument into credit. Never ever did a DJ laugh in my face for using VDJ, and i shared venues with some big names in the game, believe me.
Second, I cant tell you how many times i´ve been djing and some hotshot dj kid comes up to me and tries to tell me he’s an awesome dj. When I ask him what he spins on
he says Traktor, and he just does it on his computer.
So i know where u are coming from. But, its about skill, not the software of choice, learn and remember that!
And if hotshot kid dj´s are the reason for you say VDJ is a joke, well, i think your arguments have just been rendered useless
And how can Traktor even be better or worse than VDJ??? It cant be compared. Or is Traktor a videomix solution lately? Karaoke? free hardware and configuration choice for timecode? Ableton support? Netsearch? Firewire or Essential media support? Flash? It would so loose handsdown in an unbiased comparision.
Traktor only does Audiomixing, just like every other DJ Solution. It does it very well, but audiomixing is just a slice of the cake that is VDJ. Hell, Traktor cant even support moving platters as on the Numark V7 or NS7, whereas VDJ controls and supports about just anything that can be found on the market
Whoa dude, you are getting a LITTlE too excited. I am a vdj supporter, but it’s timecode support isn’t good. Vdj is GREAT for video DJing, and you can use it for karaoke, but for vinyl serato is king, at least for now. I’m not saying it always will be, I’m just saying for now that’s the reality I deal with as a DJ.
what? timecode support is not good? I can use serato timecode, traktor timecode or numar virtual vinyl timecode, and get a constant 100% signal. no sticker drift. Perfect. And i am not restricted to a soundcard like in SSL or TSP.
Latency on virtual vinyl is still behind. Though I’m confident it’ll get better with time and updates.
Latency is due to a computer/ hardware. has NOTHING to do with software. I know enough guys that rum 1 or 2 ms with timecode and video.
Latency on virtual vinyl is still behind. Though I’m confident it’ll get better with time and updates.
what? timecode support is not good? I can use serato timecode, traktor timecode or numar virtual vinyl timecode, and get a constant 100% signal. no sticker drift. Perfect. And i am not restricted to a soundcard like in SSL or TSP.
what? timecode support is not good? I can use serato timecode, traktor timecode or numar virtual vinyl timecode, and get a constant 100% signal. no sticker drift. Perfect. And i am not restricted to a soundcard like in SSL or TSP.
Wow, Those Are Some great Words. well Spoken and To The Point, not Once Have I heard of Being any lesser A DJ, do to the software I use.Besides,DJ Software has Only moved to the forefront of The DJ Industry in The past 10 or so years and all Those VDJ Bashers out there where still in Diapers…Just My thoughts.Remember, ” Its about The Skill, not the software of choice”
Wow, Those Are Some great Words. well Spoken and To The Point, not Once Have I heard of Being any lesser A DJ, do to the software I use.Besides,DJ Software has Only moved to the forefront of The DJ Industry in The past 10 or so years and all Those VDJ Bashers out there where still in Diapers…Just My thoughts.Remember, ” Its about The Skill, not the software of choice”
Wow, Those Are Some great Words. well Spoken and To The Point, not Once Have I heard of Being any lesser A DJ, do to the software I use.Besides,DJ Software has Only moved to the forefront of The DJ Industry in The past 10 or so years and all Those VDJ Bashers out there where still in Diapers…Just My thoughts.Remember, ” Its about The Skill, not the software of choice”
Wow, Those Are Some great Words. well Spoken and To The Point, not Once Have I heard of Being any lesser A DJ, do to the software I use.Besides,DJ Software has Only moved to the forefront of The DJ Industry in The past 10 or so years and all Those VDJ Bashers out there where still in Diapers…Just My thoughts.Remember, ” Its about The Skill, not the software of choice”
First off, I went to a club. I played with VDJ PRO and video. 2 Times DMC World Champion DJ Shiftee and the electrohouse legend Strip Steve/Boyze Noise didnt have a problem with that. So forgive me if i dont take that argument into credit. Never ever did a DJ laugh in my face for using VDJ, and i shared venues with some big names in the game, believe me.
Second, I cant tell you how many times i´ve been djing and some hotshot dj kid comes up to me and tries to tell me he’s an awesome dj. When I ask him what he spins on
he says Traktor, and he just does it on his computer.
So i know where u are coming from. But, its about skill, not the software of choice, learn and remember that!
And if hotshot kid dj´s are the reason for you say VDJ is a joke, well, i think your arguments have just been rendered useless
And how can Traktor even be better or worse than VDJ??? It cant be compared. Or is Traktor a videomix solution lately? Karaoke? free hardware and configuration choice for timecode? Ableton support? Netsearch? Firewire or Essential media support? Flash? It would so loose handsdown in an unbiased comparision.
Traktor only does Audiomixing, just like every other DJ Solution. It does it very well, but audiomixing is just a slice of the cake that is VDJ. Hell, Traktor cant even support moving platters as on the Numark V7 or NS7, whereas VDJ controls and supports about just anything that can be found on the market
First off, I went to a club. I played with VDJ PRO and video. 2 Times DMC World Champion DJ Shiftee and the electrohouse legend Strip Steve/Boyze Noise didnt have a problem with that. So forgive me if i dont take that argument into credit. Never ever did a DJ laugh in my face for using VDJ, and i shared venues with some big names in the game, believe me.
Second, I cant tell you how many times i´ve been djing and some hotshot dj kid comes up to me and tries to tell me he’s an awesome dj. When I ask him what he spins on
he says Traktor, and he just does it on his computer.
So i know where u are coming from. But, its about skill, not the software of choice, learn and remember that!
And if hotshot kid dj´s are the reason for you say VDJ is a joke, well, i think your arguments have just been rendered useless
And how can Traktor even be better or worse than VDJ??? It cant be compared. Or is Traktor a videomix solution lately? Karaoke? free hardware and configuration choice for timecode? Ableton support? Netsearch? Firewire or Essential media support? Flash? It would so loose handsdown in an unbiased comparision.
Traktor only does Audiomixing, just like every other DJ Solution. It does it very well, but audiomixing is just a slice of the cake that is VDJ. Hell, Traktor cant even support moving platters as on the Numark V7 or NS7, whereas VDJ controls and supports about just anything that can be found on the market
please kill ur self
They are referring to the market of professional djs. Not bedroom or local club djs. Yea VDJ is popular but mostly because there are a million hacked versions out and it doesn’t need an interface. But on a performance level, VDJ is unknown. I agree that the features in VDJ are superior. All they really need to do is emulate the SSL & Traktor by putting out a hardware package. And if they really want djs to take it serious, sponsor some djs and put on major events. Show everyone that VDJ is serious and not just a bedroom dj program.
Why would VDJ put out a hardware package, when it works with everything that’s out there? Putting out a hardware package that only supports VDJ is an oxymoron. VDJ was created to be hardware independent for a reason – it is software. You can’t buy a Microsoft computer, why would you need a VDJ specific controller? Microsoft (the operating system and it’s many products) is received with a computer as a license (as is VDJ). They provide you a limited license (Office) in the hopes you purchase the full product after a trial. They are the standard for following the same model VDJ is following.
If an alien came to Earth and wanted to DJ, they would select VDJ due to the greater capabilities, support to differing hardware, and yes, ease of use. The bias/paradygm of prefering Traktor/Serato is socially based, on some DJs preference of a more expensive, less capable product. Social acceptance of a product has no bearing or relationship to TALENT. I remember when I was that “hotshot kid DJ in 1977”. I am a computer engineer by trade, DJ by obsession, currently running VDJ with V7, but I have used it with Technics (Vinyl & CD), and yes, I’ve DJed with both Serato and Traktor. As a real DJ, you can use any available “tool” to achieve your bottom line – Entertaining the audience! By the way, the real judges of talent are the Audience, and they can’t tell what you’re using – they’re too busy dancing!
Why would they put out a package? Why not? Making a soundcard for it takes nothing away from it being a standalone. People who WANT to use it with turntables or cdjs or whatever, could have that option. You’re insightful speech about Aliens is far from compelling. Pick VDJ over any other program or DVS system? I guess that’s why Serato and Traktor are on top but VDJ is still scraping to catch up. Saying VDJ is more capable than other programs is a matter of speaking. You have ALLL this crap in the software that is limited to hotkeys and a mouse. But i’m positive the capabilities would be better seen if it was all available in a controller. The fact that it is only software limits it. Imagine if VDJ had the same platform as serato. The only thing that would be different would be the software. You could unleash the possibilities by using turntables, midi controllers, or whatever you wanted. THAT is why VDJ should market a soundcard. They want to compete with the big boys then why not. It would do nothing but boost them. And since you want to spout off about djing and all this. I’m currently on tour in Japan. Just came from Cali, NC, and Atlanta. Next it’s on to Okinawa and maybe Bermuda after that. From TTs to controllers, I’ve done it too. So that all holds no weight in this convo. Simply put, VDJ would be a killer if it had a soundcard. It could stand up against Serato and Traktor. Until then “real djs”…we won’t waste our time. I can kut and rip on traktor, serato, Spin+, Torq, or just wax. So why would I waste time on a “software only” dj setup?
I totally agree with DJReuben on this, one of the coolest things about VDJ is that you can plug pretty much *any* USB controller into it and VDJ will recognize it and have you playing in minutes, and if the controller is so new that they haven’t mapped it yet, you can do it yourself instead of waiting for them to do it for you. Depending on where I’m travelling/playing, I can roll with a Novation Twitch in a backpack, Numark V7’s and a mixer in flight cases, or play on the venue’s 1200’s or CDJs *and* do it all with video. So why would I want to be locked into using one particular “VDJ Controller” when I already have endless options?
I agree with Mitch 100%, I have been using Vdj for four years now and if you find the right skin(s) it really is limitless. There are a few features in Vdj that I haven’t seen anywhere else like being able to save and trigger ten hot cues and re name them with long sentences ie “cue4 mix out point, 64 beets until next drop” and the ability to jump forward or backwards any number of beets with a touch of a button is VERY handy to say the least. It is my opinion that if they changed the name they would have much greater Sucsess
Tho i am pro-vdj, The ten cues have easy work arounds for most programs, at least as easy as finding the correct vdj skins, tho I don’t find the re-naming to have any use as I usually get to know my music in and out to the point where naming is useless.
SERATO AND TRAKTOR ARE INDUSTRY STANDARDS. SO TO COMPLETELY SWITCH TO A DIFFERENT PROGRAM/SOFTWARE/INTERFACE, THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THE OTHER TWO DONT. BUT WHAT MORE COULD YOU NEED. SERATO THE BRIDGE AND TRAKTOR WITH THE ABILITY TO USE ABLETON OR TIME RECIEVING APPS WONT BE SHAKIN. THERE IS ALSO THE “TOO MUCH OF ONE THING ISNT A GOOD THING.” BOTH VDJ AND THE ONE LOOK AS IF THEY HAVE TOO MUCH TO HANDLE. AS TRAKTOR AND SERATO DO, THE SIMPLICITY OF THEIR LAYOUT MAKE IT NO AS CRAZY AND A HEADACHE TO LOOK AT. QUESTIONS ALSO HAVENT BEEN ANSWERED EITHER. DOES THE ONE ONLY USE CONTROLLERS OR IS IT AND AUDIO INTERFACED PROGRAM LIKE THE SERATOS AND TRAKTORS. AGAIN, THESE PRGRAMS HAVE TO SOMETHING BIG TO MAKE DJS STRAY FROM SERATO AND TRAKTOR, CAUSE I DONT SEE MYSELF LEAVING ANYTIME SOON
Your keyboard is malfunctioning.
I would be wary of calling TraktorPro UI layout “simple”.
For the record, I’d use “convoluted” at least.
Greetings to new software overlords, may the best company win and user gains most of the benefit.
You can actually simplify it a whole lot. To the point of almost: two waveforms and that’s it… specially if you already know how to handle everything from your controller, but I’ve been using it for years and to me it just makes sense…it’s more about practice and getting used to your software
You can actually simplify it a whole lot. To the point of almost: two waveforms and that’s it… specially if you already know how to handle everything from your controller, but I’ve been using it for years and to me it just makes sense…it’s more about practice and getting used to your software
Your keyboard is malfunctioning.
I would be wary of calling TraktorPro UI layout “simple”.
For the record, I’d use “convoluted” at least.
Greetings to new software overlords, may the best company win and user gains most of the benefit.
you know what’s crazy and is a headache to look at?
your post.
sorry bro.
Although The One looks interesting, how on earth could you say it looks “incredibly robust” – that will be determined once people start using it in real circumstances
Although The One looks interesting, how on earth could you say it looks “incredibly robust” – that will be determined once people start using it in real circumstances
Although The One looks interesting, how on earth could you say it looks “incredibly robust” – that will be determined once people start using it in real circumstances
Because it looks that way – it’s got a wide promised feature set. I didn’t state that I have used it and found it to be such : )
What a joke…
What a joke…
What a joke…
What a joke…
What a joke…
I remember when dj tech tools was a Creative open place for up and coming producers and disk jockeys. Now it’s just a buncha kid bitching at each other.
I remember when dj tech tools was a Creative open place for up and coming producers and disk jockeys. Now it’s just a buncha kid bitching at each other.
“Our one major suggestion for Atomix is that in this process of rebuilding Virtual DJ, hire a great interface designer to make the default skins for the product. Skins are great- but an intelligent, great-looking interface that is there from the first time it boots could make this new version something that users rave about.”
+1 This I’ve always thought that the GUI (&of course the name) is the main reason VDJ is always being scoffed at.
+1 Could not agree more.
It can look what ever one likes, thats such a great advancement above restricted GUI´s. If i want, the skin shows me all the information i need, and looks just as i wish 😉
It can look what ever one likes, thats such a great advancement above restricted GUI´s. If i want, the skin shows me all the information i need, and looks just as i wish 😉
It can look what ever one likes, thats such a great advancement above restricted GUI´s. If i want, the skin shows me all the information i need, and looks just as i wish 😉
It can look what ever one likes, thats such a great advancement above restricted GUI´s. If i want, the skin shows me all the information i need, and looks just as i wish 😉
i believe, if virtual dj, had better wave forms that would make a huge difference.
i think the fact that djdecks has coloured waveforms can surely mean that VDJ will get them too in v8. Also videoeffects per deck, not just master videoeffect, and vst-effets on the master channel instead of the decks. Also the UI will get a overhaul, with support of transparent .png instead of .bmp . That means crisp and clean skin grafix on any resolution.
VDJ8 will demonstrate VDJ´s superior position 😉 rest assured
i think the fact that djdecks has coloured waveforms can surely mean that VDJ will get them too in v8. Also videoeffects per deck, not just master videoeffect, and vst-effets on the master channel instead of the decks. Also the UI will get a overhaul, with support of transparent .png instead of .bmp . That means crisp and clean skin grafix on any resolution.
VDJ8 will demonstrate VDJ´s superior position 😉 rest assured
i believe, if virtual dj, had better wave forms that would make a huge difference.