Denon DJ SC5000: First Look At Denon’s New Media Player

As first reported on the Denon DJ Facebook group and on Twitter by a DJTT reader, a brand new media player from Denon has appeared in leaked images online. The new media player is likely what the company meant last fall by their #changeyourrider campaign. With cue point buttons and a full screen with waveform display, this is the product Pioneer DJ might want to be scared of: keep reading for our summary of what we know.

Editor’s Note: We were sent a preview of this product already, but all information published in this article is based on what we’ve seen in these leaked images. 

It appears as though a certain magazine has published an image of the new Denon DJ SC5000 and the floodgates opened on the internet. Here’s the best image we’ve seen so far of the new media player (click on it to zoom):

Denon DJ SC-5000 main

Denon DJ SC5000 Features (Based On The Images)

It looks as though a lot of DJ requests have been answered on this new model – here’s what we can tell so far from these pictures:

  • 8 performance buttons below the deck – for cues, loops, rolls, slicer
  • On-jog display (that appears to show album artwork!)
  • Built in slip mode
  • A loop encoder – with a “loop move” label underneath it. This could be a huge advantage over Pioneer’s limited loop move functionality on CDJ/XDJs
  • A large screen that shows colored waveforms, song section labels, beatgrid, track information, Camelot Wheel key data, and more
  • Censor/Reverse button
  • Sync and Master functionality
  • Adjustable pitch range as well as pitch bend buttons (a first on standalone players?)
  • Beat Jump in place of Track Search
  • USB, SD, and network link-based track storage (USB and SD card appear to be front-loading from below the cue buttons)

Engine News Coming Too?

To power these features and bring Denon’s standalone players into direct competition with Pioneer, we also suspect that there will need to be a substantial upgrade to the preparation software, Engine. This could take many forms – from Denon building their own DJ software (like Rekordbox DJ) that also acts as preparation software, or just an update to the existing platform.

We’ll have more details on the Denon DJ SC5000 next week and at NAMM 2017 – which starts later this month. See all of our NAMM coverage here

  • Kevin Hackett

    My local Guitar Center has not sold one of these. Not a single one. Total albatross for Denon. I bet less than 100 clubs worldwide install these.

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  • Mr. E Hz

    The only functionality that makes these worth looking at is the Dual Layers, and if my experience with Denon’s sound card design from their DNX-1600 mixer, is any indicator of how their harware will function when coupled with a Macbook Pro, I wouldn’t pay anything for these. However, say it does work fine, they are still nothing more than a XDJ-1000 MK2 with uglier design, and unproven reliability and performance. I had hoped Denon would really bring a deck like this with a price point equal or less than the XDJ-1000 MK2s, unfortunately, this is not it. You would have to be a serious Denon fanboy, or have been burned by Pioneer one too many times to seriously consider these over the XDJ-1000 MK2. I will guess that not one, non-paid by dennon artist will #changeyourrider.

  • Anthony Alonso

    Guitar center has already three items listed now (VL12, the player, and dnx1800). Denon is out of their minds on pricing. While I can justify $1900 for a mixer, pricing a player $250 less than the industry standard isn’t worth it. It may be an amazing or even godly player, but the ROI to purchase these on any type of large scale seems to risky due to a low rental demand.

  • Robert

    I find it ridiculous that any music company that is producing Dj hardware does not make all of there products midi mappable. I believe they have everything to gain and nothing to loose. My self and a most of my colleague will not purchase Any Dj Controller or CDJ that is not HID or midi mappable. So Denon Get it together. Remember the new nexus 2 support HID and from what I read (Unless I missed something.) this is only for serato and your product. Not good business sense

  • Anthony Alonso

    Ooooh. I wonder if it will play stems?

  • Theo Bishop

    I still prefer the pioneer version i made on Ps.

  • Theo Bishop
  • ThatFin

    In order to compete with Pioneer, sticker price for SC5000 should be around 1000$/€ per device/unit. Pioneer is in the position that they can artificially keep their prices as high as possible. That can only be changed by healthy competition. SC5000 is a pure media player, no need for opticaldrive-tax. I think that 1000 dollars/euros is a good price limit for professional media players. It´s same thing for example with game consoles, 400$/€ or under is acceptable, over 400$/€ is a commercial suicide. Pioneer XDJ-1000MK2 cost´s about 1200$ and it´s too much for bedroom DJ´s and even for working DJ´s which uses their own gear.

  • Good lord, just bring your laptop already… Soon you’ll be able to play Minecraft on your cd decks!

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  • Christopher Allen

    if the display on this is a touch screen, bring out the champagne! it’s finally happening! the only negative i’ll probably hear from ppl is that there’s no CD drive. get over it

    • Kevin Basher

      It’s a touch screen.

      • Christopher Allen

        there is a God

  • Anthony Alonso

    If there is traktor HID integration, I will buy 4. lol

    • Christopher Allen

      why would you want to use this with a computer in the first place?

      • Anthony Alonso

        I doubt it will read rekordbox data and I dont see rekordbuddy adding engine integration any time soon. Since they would not be in every booth I will be deejaying in, it wouldnt make sense to switch to Denon’s software just to use the players at home. This will probably be what holds the sales of the player back the most.

        • Christopher Allen

          I never understood the big deal with that. As small as the programs are theres no reason you can’t have both downloaded. I found the easiest thing to do is manage my music in iTunes playlists, analyze everything in Serato, and then drag the playlists on a flash drive through engine or rekordbox. It’s a pain to do this for every gig but my sets change so often I’d be doing it whether or not I was switching between hardware all the time just because I’d have new music to add. If you use rekordbox or engine as your main music management tool I guess that’s another issue but I’ve been collecting music longer than I’ve been a dj so it never dawned on me that ppl do that

          • Anthony Alonso

            Gridding and Adding Cue Points across multiple platforms for 100+ tracks a week is heavily time consuming.

          • Gavin Varitech

            If you’re importing 100+ tracks a week into your collection there’s no way you’re playing the best music you can (and probably not paying for it, either). DJs need to be much more selective!

          • Anthony Alonso

            One top 40 night every week, 1 dnb or hardcore booking every month, and the random playlist requests I get for corporate gigs make 400+ tunes a month pretty easy to fly through. And I do purchase all of my tunes. Being a Co-Owner of an independent label, it would be a pretty bad look if I didn’t. 😉
            But, music is my primary source of income.

  • Kasteel Mike

    Wow Denon, just wow. If they do this right, they will take a lot of pioneer business. Denon DJ just like their home theater stuff is just too notch. Big fan.

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  • LUNR WLF

    It looked they just went to pioneer and said, “Hey! Let me borrow that XDJ-700 real quick!”
    and then just put a denon logo on it

    • ace

      xdj700 has 8″ jog wheels?
      xdj700 has jog display?
      xdj700 has loop encoder?
      xdj700 has performance pads?
      xdj700 has brake adjust?
      xdj700 has jog tension?
      xdj700 has layer, source & shortcut buttons?
      xdj700 has same footprint?
      ………. Nope
      I guess other than that – it’s a splitting image of the 700 – Lol!!

    • Kevin Basher

      You mean like Pioneer went to Denon back then to borrow the angled screen?

    • Sheldon Clint

      Your blind or stupid ?

  • Steve Francesco

    Designed for Green Lantern by Twinkie from Tokyo Drift.

    They got the features right, but I fear that if Denon want people to seriously “change their rider” that they should have gone with a more “ageless” color scheme. I really hope its not quite as “green” as the pics when its released.

    • ace

      The colors are exaggerated in the pic (probably to try make it ‘pop’ / stand out).
      Even on the image of the mcx8000, some of the blue led’s looks almost neon / cyan while the led’s around the jog wheels where also heavily exaggerated
      However in reality the colors are not nearly as intense.

    • Dan Tourville

      You can make it what ever color you want.

    • Dan Tourville

      And you can probably turn the LED’s off if it really bothers you that much lol

  • rt1

    its ugly to be honest. pioneer deck wanna be

  • mikefunk

    Now I am waiting for AI assisted player. Who will be first? Come on. We all thinking about it. Music mixing itself. We are screwed sooner or later.

    • Jacob Stadtfeld

      I know, I hate new things too.

    • Kevin Hackett

      Its called the iPad Pro.

  • Scott Frost

    Pitch bend buttons were invented by form Denon from d&m holdings. They hav existed since the 90s and have been on all demon players.

  • Jason Parker

    The generel Main Question is if you can also use it as a Controller with HID and if u can acces the 2 Audiooutputs from 2 Decks of a Laptop. I have doubts… but mb its the way not to include it to bring people away from laptop. everybody wants a standalone device which can do all what controllers + software can do but everybody moans when he cant control traktor with it.

    • Kevin Basher

      While it seems like a waste of money to spend that much on something just to control Traktor, to me it would be a huge waste of time to convert a perfectly managed Traktor collection to something new (and unproven) like Engine. Furthermore, Traktor is the heart of my setup and I really like it. I hope they’ll bring HID support.

  • weslk

    In my opinion, Denon really needs to hire another designteam. This looks so cheap, with those neon LED’s and ugly platter. I have never liked the designs of their DJ-gear. Most of their designs are too ‘cool-looking’. Not my thing.

    • Gavin Varitech

      Seriously. They look like toys.

      • Kevin Basher

        You guys do realise that this just a rendered picture, right? Compare those renders of the MCX8000 to real pictures of the finished product and you have a good idea of what you might get with the SC5000. Furthermore, Pioneer is using the exact same colour scheme in their promotional pictures of the DDJ-RX / RZX. Consider these toys, too?

        • Gavin Varitech

          The MCX8000 also looks like a toy. But then again I tend to feel that way about all of the newer all-in-one controllers out there (probably because they all kind of look the same, like toys).

          • weslk

            That was exactly what I was about to say, about the all-in-one controllers. To be honest, I didn’t liked the end-result of the MCX8000 either, but I also don’t like those from Pioneer. This however is a tabletop, and imo Pioneer does do a good job at designing their own higher-end models. They look cleaner and simpler, less ‘toyee’ (?) to me, but then again, it’s a matter of taste. If, based on looks alone and I had to choose between the XDJ-1000 or Denon’s counterpart, I defintely would have chose the XDJ-1000.

          • Gavin Varitech

            Exactly.

          • Mark

            MCX8000 is anything but a toy, it’s a beast!

      • Kevin Hackett

        They are. Denon is not Denon anymore, its InMusic, LTD.

    • Drew Long

      This!

  • Theo Bishop

    I made this on Ps last year.

  • Theo Bishop
    • Jason Parker

      seems they stole your idea. you should ask for 2 pieces as payment… 😀

  • guest100

    Waiting for the 2 channel mixer. DNX 600mk2.

  • guest100

    Imagine a turntable can be plugged in to timecode control Engine.

  • Yeah, looks like a nice deck. I might even consider buying it.

    However, still waiting for that Sierra-compatible firmware update for DN-X1600…

    • Spacecamp

      Sadly, you may have to wait forever… that’s an “old school” Denon product and it’s unlikely they’re focusing on that at all since they were acquired by InMusic

      • Yeah, I’m afraid that might be the case. According to Denon the biggest problem is that the aforementioned mixers were manufactured by a subcontractor whom Denon no longer employs.

        Having said that, I’m determined to make noise about it. If nothing else, maybe Denon open sources the firmware so a third party can patch the firmware. Well, perhaps not open source since there’s a lot of proprietary DSP stuff in the firmware, but disclosing it to third party under a NDA is within the realm of possibility.

        • Kevin Hackett

          The x1600 and x1700 are owned by Allen and Heath and we are working to release a firmware update for them. Its all a bunch of legal crap at this point. Mid 2017? Hopefully. The x1600/1700 is still the most advanced mixer of its kind, still relevant by today’s standards and the lawyers think so too.

  • Oscar C

    Looks great!!! Best competition to Pioneer yet. Also, hope Denon’s “totally new constructed Engine Software so called “Engine Prime” and “Beatgrid and Harmonic Analyze” are available to Denon MCX 8000 owners. Denon, DON’T SELL US OUT!!!

    • Jason Parker

      7000 and 8000 Controller are too new not to be supported. More intersting if 2900 and 3900 will be supported.

      • Oscar C

        Great point Jason. I hope your right.

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  • James Brian Thomaston

    I just hope they make Engine stable enough to use the SC3900’s again. If they aren’t going to bring back the spinning platters then let us at least use them with the new software. They worked via ethernet until they came out with the new version of Engine. Now it crashes often.

  • max

    EWW

  • max

    EW

  • Sven van Bavel

    I really hope that Denon gets back in the game! But I hope they don’t want to push engine software. Let the user decide. I myself love Traktor and I’m expecting (hoping) that traktor 3.0 will be a big thing. Hoping Denon contacted NI for this… Would love to see a version with spinning platter too. Sc2900 vs sc3900 story about the choice for platter. @DJTT pitch bend buttons were always included on denon’s decks. Those buttons, before the tabletop players existed, was what mede them work and perform so well. Even on my pair of sc3900’s (and on my dn-s3500’s) I love those buttons and how they respond, whatever happens they are there and perform always as expected.

    • mikefunk

      Traktor 3 is same myth like Half Life 3. Just don’t wait.

  • Jason Parker

    I think they are named “Prime” as there will be an “Optimus Prime” Edition which will transform the Player after the Gig into a Backpack.

    • mikefunk

      It sounds stoopid but, well. If there was any way to connect it and pack it together in some sort of portable brick…. I’d buy that.

    • Anthony Alonso

      I was wondering seeing about dimensions. If those feet are removable, ya might be able to slide two of these into a backpack which would replace me needing to carry two d2’s and a laptop when I got anywhere.

  • Jason Parker

    Hey there! Here some more Infos to the new Denon Products: Beside the SC5000 there is also the new 4-channel Clubmixer Denon X1800 which fits exactly in this so called new “Prime” Line of Denon. There will be a totally new constructed Engine Software so called “Engine Prime” . Further Feateres of the SC5000: Beatgrid and Harmonic Analyze in Realtime without Preperation. Intelligent Searchfunction for Songs on the 7-inch Touchscreen where we find a full Querzt Touch Keyboard. The Jog is 8 Inch and Aluminiumplated with Artwork Screens. The Jog Settings can be customized. Also there will be an additional Performance Layer to use a second virtual Deck on the same Player which has his own RCA-Connector to the Mixer!!! The Player is able to Play also FLAC, ALAC and Wave. 3 USB Connectors + SD. Network Connection to sync up to 4 Players. recommended Price 2140 Euro MB Streetprice could end up around 16-1800. Then we have the new Mixer X1800 Prime: The new Mixer offers 2 USB Soundcards with 24card/96khz. On this 4 Channel Club Mixer we have a dedicated so called “Sweep-Effekt” Section compareable to Pioneers “harmonic fx” this will add 6 Effects to each channel: Dub, Echo, Noise , Disortion, Reverb. you can select between Calssic and Isolation EQ Settings with global Lo/Hi-Pass Resonance Control. Also Offerd is Send/Return for Effects. Main Effect Unit with OLED-Display and 12 Effects, Touchstrip for quantize and Rhythmbased Effects, All can be synced in Time and Beatgrids with the SC500 using the new Enginge-Connect Protocol. Recommended Price also 2140 Euro release for bnoth 1st Quarter 2017 (latest March). For me these are Game Changers. Not to forget about the new Turntable Prime VL12 which is a 100% own Denon Development. very Special new Isolation Feet to kill any Resonance. Abjustable Torque up to 5Kg. Pitch 8-50%. Full Metal Body. Hidden Cables in Battle Position. What is a nice Gimmick will be the individual RGB Illumination of the Platter which can be adjusted in Brightness and Colour. The Platter has a new devolped Feel so called “Easy Grip Break” The Tonearm has a new “Lock or rest” Feature. electronical isolated Engine to reduce noise in the signal. Listprice 950 Euro.

    • Kyler Killips

      assuming all this information is true, all i really see is an XDJ1000mk2 with an extra feature or 2, and that estimated price doesnt even come close to that of the XDJ. seems they brought the competitive features without the competitive pricing…

      • Jason Parker

        Dont forget these are list prices. I think u can take 20-25% off….

      • Cobra

        How do you see this as an XDJ1000mk2? Dual sound-cards, proper sample buttons… I mean come on. Oh and it doesn’t seem to be “plastic fantastic”.

        • Gavin Varitech

          The dual soundcards are on the X1800 mixer, not this new media player.

          Kyler seems absolutely right here. It’s like an XDJ1000mk2 with some ugly buttons to get in my way of DJing, with new proprietary software that you’re never going to be able to use in a club like Rekordbox (because clubs are not switching to these, period), for a lot more $$$.

          • Cobra

            I still disagree. If anything it looks like a full size XDJ-700.

          • TichMcCottle

            lol the cocksucking on this one. yea you have fun with your FisherPrice DJ SC5000

          • Cobra

            I’m not buying jack. I just hate Pioneer fans passive aggressiveness. By the way wash that mouth, I can smell your low intellect from here.

          • TheCrimsonChin

            I can smell your triggered from here, and I’m on the jon taking a shit that looks a bit like you.

          • ace

            “additional Performance Layer to use a second virtual Deck on the same Player which has his own RCA-Connector”
            So the unit has four RCA’s. Basically it’s 2 decks in one.

          • Kevin Hackett

            Not really, its a virtual deck, the HS500 was discrete, meaning it had its own memory space, this unit shares memory space, its virtual.
            This unit is a pile of plastic trash you can’t really use 75% of it w/o the mixer. Bad form,

      • Steve Francesco

        Couple hundred less than a Nexus @ 2140 euro and almost $1000 more than an XDJ1000 … not really a “wow” price IMHO.

        I’m guessing alot of folks read the last line which is about the price for the VL12 right ? 😛

    • Cobra

      With those prices… checkmate for my next purchase.

    • mikefunk

      Is it normal that I have a boner now after reading this? I like Pioneer but this… this is really two steps forward. Like – somebody really listened and did what we wanted instead giving us incremental bullshit updates that take years. Kudos Denon. I am holding my money designaded for Pioneer and waiting for this stuff.

      • Jason Parker

        …in Fact – it took years. Everybody thought like: Is Denon doing anything and felt like they are dead for 4-5 years. They took their time to reinvent themselve, took the best from the market and added their ideas. Smart move. And in long term this was probably smarter then to bring out half satisfying Equipment every 6 Month. I was already confused about the 8000 why the Engine was still so shitty it didnt fit to the product. Now we know they did nothing on the old engine beside some minor bug or driver fixings. As they already were working on the new one. If we would assume that all runs stable i think they did the right decision to wait so long. We will find out…

      • Theo B
    • LUNR WLF

      OK….. lets talk about theses stats…

      1. “Intelligent Searchfunction for Songs on the 7-inch Touchscreen where we find a full Querzt Touch Keyboard.”

      Response: This is already becoming a norm for the latest pioneer products so far….
      since their release of the xdj 1000, the 7 inch touchscreen with touch keyboard has basically become a requirement for Pioneer’s recent players….

      2. “The Jog is 8 Inch and Aluminiumplated with Artwork Screens”

      Response: I don’t really see any use of seeing song artwork… its pretty cool, but I also see it as just a novelty extra

      3. “The Player is able to Play also FLAC, ALAC and Wave.” & “The Jog Settings can be customized.”

      Response: at this point in time, thats kinda what a media player is supposed to do

      4. “Beat-grid and Harmonic Analyze in Realtime without Preparation”

      Response: Ok, this seem pretty cool, but i have to consider how long does the beatgrid ad harmonization in realtime take. and how do I know if the beat grid function doesn’t mess up…. and i doesn’t really matter about having no preparation anyways…. DJs are going to have to pick the songs for their setlist beforehand, and prepare their tracks, BEFOREHAND.

      One big problem I have with all these DJ controller features being on one media player is RELIABILITY ISSUES!!! Surely all these features are putting a lot of pressure on the media player’s software. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they crash easily….

      • Kevin Hackett

        You could plug a real keyboard into the hs5500 and navigate the entire thing on the keyboard. You don’t even need to touch the unit. Only one you can and ever could do that with. Can;t with this piece of shit.

    • Anthony Alonso

      With dual layers on one player, it really makes a huge difference. That’s what I’ve loved about other Denon players. That price point is a little high, but I’m sure it won’t be $1600 when it is released. I’m super excited about the mixer.

  • Jumpiicat

    This is a deck that I have seen.

  • Noname

    Question: the artwork will also spin? This is absolutely essential for me.

    • Spacecamp

      Great question. Based on these images, no, but maybe!

      • Kevin Hackett

        Its a stupid question, admit it.

    • Kevin Hackett

      WTF does that have to do with mixing? Fucking nothing douche.

  • Kelly Newman

    Rumor is 2 sound cards as well so one deck per two channels? I will stand by and wait for the formal announcement

    • Spacecamp

      Two soundcards in this unit? Unlikely!

      • Kelly Newman

        This is what I have read with someone who appears to have intimate knowledge of the device. Skeptical on it the same, but if so, this will change things.

        • Dan Tourville

          I believe the two sound cards are in the new Denon mixer.

          • Kevin Hackett

            Yup, so this is pile of shit you can not use w/o the mixer and a computer. Total BS.

    • Kevin Basher

      Rather a comeback of the alpha track feature known from the HS5500s with dual outputs.

      • Jason Parker

        exactly that is what`s happening!

    • Eloy Garcia

      YESSSSSSS! From one Trekker to another!

  • Mikey

    This is the prettiest deck I have ever seen. :O :O

  • Sweet Lord its gorgeous

  • Kyler Killips

    my ancient Denon DN-S1000s has pitch range as well as pitch buttons

  • Tom

    This is the ugliest deck I have ever seen.

    • mikefunk

      So it’s like 90% of decks you have seen as it’s basically Pioneer deck with all the thing DJ’s really need now.

      • Gavin Varitech

        It looks like a retarded Pioneer deck and has a bunch of stuff that only gets in most of our way.

        • Kevin Basher

          Not agreeing with that one. The SC5000 probably is the cleanest looking Denon product in decades (they’ve clearly learned their lessons!) What do you think might get in your way? Those flat buttons in front of the jog wheel? While scratching? Or nudgeing? Probably not. Also you might wanna count the knobs, buttons and slider on this deck vs the CDJ-2000NXS2. The Pioneer has more of them and looks rather “denon-ish” cluttered compared to the SC5000.

          • mikefunk

            Ignore him. It’s just brainless fanboy angry that competiton released something with better functionality for less. Just ignore….

          • Gavin Varitech

            Right, I’m in love with a company that charges more than $2,000 for a fucking CD player and get mad when someone else comes out with something that might compete. Because that makes sense.

            No, this is just fucking ugly and all those “things DJs really need now” most DJs don’t actually need, they just talk about, and for those that do are better served when we can bring our own controller for that purpose (Dicers, Kontrol X1, MDI Fighter, etc).

          • Kevin Basher

            Agreed. The features that would be most interesting to me (loop encoder, loop move, beatjump, more than 3 or 4 hot cues) have been available since I bought my first Kontrol X1.

            But still there is no deck with a good jog wheel AND a nice display (you can have either, not both) that also has those features mentioned above well implemented.

            The D2 has a good display and all the above but lacks the jog.
            The CDJs have great jogs but touch screen control for beat jump and a shitty loop and hot cue concept – do they even have loop move?

            Therefore I appreciate that Denon has everything (and hopefully HID support from Traktor).

    • Gavin Varitech

      It’s up there… Hideous!